Another law thread

[Drich]

But what I want to know is(and pardon me if you feel you've answered this, but I don't feel you have)is there any part of you that doubts that it was an authentic, divine experience?

At the time I was pretty sure it was just a dream because it did not coincide with any of the examples of hell that I had heard of to that point in my life. Again I was raised with the Dante's inferno model. As I sought god out over the coming years and found what I had dreamed to be biblically accurate combining the accounts of Sheol (OT) and lake of fire (NT) I became convinced this was a message or Revelation from God.

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You've missed the point of my illustration. If you do not currently involve yourself in and advertise death penality level crimes, you would have fallen into a reality where your soceity has adopted the 'morality' of a verfiable God.

I do not even know what this means.

God says it does. Either one worships God or one is in rebellion. This is illustrated by Christ over and over in his teachings "Wheat/Weeds, Wheat/Chaff, Sheep/Goats" One is either accepted by God or he is not.

Sure, god can say whatever he wants. From a personal standpoint, I can remain ambivalent to him, regardless of whether his existence is proven or not. You say if he did prove himself it would deny free will, and then when I tell you it wouldn't for me, you start talking about what god's thinking, like that at all matters given the example.

Your missing the big picture. This Very thing has happened in two periods of History already. (in two completely different cultures in two different time frames.) The results were the same both times.. How is it you believe despite actual evidence in the Historical record that you know things would work differently?

Because- as my repeated use of the pronoun "I" might have suggested- I was speaking only in personal terms, in response to your original premise. I know what's in my head.

... He said, knowing full well that you're next going to argue that I don't because god.

My example using death penalty crimes establishes that you are not an anti societal extremist. Like Osama bin Ladin, correct? Which makes you compliant or accepting of ALL the laws concerning death penalty crimes does it not? or again have you committed a death penalty level crime in open defiance of the western culture as Osama has? If yes please use this opportunity to claim your actions as Osama has completing the sociopaths pattern. if not then understand that you are willing subject to all laws concerning capital offenses. As such if Christ in his time here two thousand years ago established A verifiable open channel to heaven that scientist could test and approve as being the real deal. Then it would be safe to say our societies would look a lot different. Our laws would most likely reflect the laws the bible outlines as was the case in OT Judaism and in the dark ages when the Christian church ran the world into the ground.

Again because as you have demonstrated you do not have it in you to fight against the society's highest level offenses, and that you are willing to simply roll over and adopt what society has deemed to be 'moral'. It would stand to reason that you would have simply adopted societies standards even if some of the sins you enjoy now were elevated to capital crimes. Or again do you think yourself such a different person than the millions who lived and submitted themselves under church rule? In truth the only difference between you and some poor guy living 1500 years ago is the benefit of perspective that he provided by living in such terrible times. Without it you would not even question the life society had slated for you to live. As demonstrated by your current acceptance of all the major laws you dare not break.