(January 24, 2013 at 12:19 am)Drich Wrote: If you know to be real without doubt, then you know everything He has told us would also be real without question. Salvation ceases to be about loving God, and becomes a matter of self preservation. Even if you resent God the knowledge of Him and your coming judgement would at the very least place on in a position "moral" justification (makes you a Luke warm Christian) which Christ condemns to hell.
It does not necessarily work that way. I find it impossible to think that it would be absolutely impossible for people to love God as thoroughly as you think they should if they knew for sure that everything about him is true. There would certainly be many, most even, who do it for perceived rewards, but if there are people who submit entirely on the basis of faith, there would have to be people who would submit entirely on the basis of reason. If there was a verified God, it would make sense to do exactly as he wants, and for the reasons he wants it done. Indeed, it would make more sense to do it then, because you would have no reason to ever doubt it was the right thing to do.
(January 23, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Ryantology Wrote: What if God used a dream like anyother to show me? Why would all powerful God not be allowed to use common dreams to give revelations? the bible seems to think this is a legitimate avenue for God to use to communicate.
The question is, why would he bother using such an unreliable and vague method? If people can sent accurate communications through a hundred different methods, why can't God do better than dreams?