Quote:No counter argument to my pointing to a very specific instance of violence- by Jesus- in the scriptures?
why does their need to be one?
There needs to be one because Jesus is on trial as is god, in my eyes. Anything else you said in your post is muted because you refuse to acknowledge this very question, in my humble opinion. If my children are doing the most horrific of things, it still doesn't mean I'm going to fabricate a barbed whip and whip them with it. And I certainly couldn't justify that even for murderers.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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