(January 30, 2013 at 7:09 pm)Esquilax Wrote: For you, Frodo:
(January 30, 2013 at 3:00 pm)Question Mark Wrote: No matter how one attempts to work out this issue, the crux of christianity is God's perfection. A perfect deity has to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, as most christians I've spoken to have a habit of declaring, and for him to be perfect this is true. With this comes questions as to the absurdity that reality could possibly have been created by such a creature, unless it's all a cosmic joke and said god has a very twisted sense of humour.
If God is not omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, then he's fallible, which means that his laws and manner by which he supposedly governs the universe are fallible and liable to interpretation, which means that the bible's laws can be subject to scrutiny and rational processing, which lets face it, we already do. We don't enslave people anymore, we don't stone children to death when they misbehave, we don't force rapists to marry their victims, we don't sacrifice people and animals to imaginary people int he sky.
To be perfect, God must be capable of everything, or be nothing.
The bolding is the important bit. He's not actually making the claim himself, and I know you don't hold to this claim yourself, but don't you think it's worth discussing what mainstream christianity believes and why? The fact is, there are a lot of christian proponents that hold this view about a limitless god, and isn't that worthy of a little consideration?
Certainly I do, and that's why I gave my views on it here, and in a forum for people to see. If I didn't want people to either point out flaws in it, contradict me outright, or add to what I said, then I would have just kept it to myself. Did you have something specifically you wanted to add or point out?