RE: Another law thread
January 30, 2013 at 11:31 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2013 at 11:40 pm by Drich.)
(January 29, 2013 at 4:17 am)catfish Wrote: Seriously folks... Everyone claims to have read the Bible but very few recognise the FACT that the prophets AND Yeshua called the old "law" fake, lies, deceitful and traditions of men.
There is no need to be pissed at God as he obviously didn't make all of those stupid arbitrary rules... (regardless if you believe in God or not)
Jeremiah 8:8
New International Version (NIV)
8 “‘How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the Lord,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?
Ezekiel 22:28
New International Version (NIV)
28 Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says’—when the Lord has not spoken.
Jeremiah 7:22
King James Version (KJV)
22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:
John 7:22-23
New International Version (NIV)
22 Yet, because Moses gave you circumcision (though actually it did not come from Moses, but from the patriarchs), you circumcise a boy on the Sabbath. 23 Now if a boy can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing a man’s whole body on the Sabbath?
This is a great example of red flag exegesis. Where one makes a proclamation, and seeks out single or even a partial verse from all over the bible to support the wild claim. 10 times out of 10 a simple contextual overview will dismiss any crazy claim made, that is based on several single verses that have to be taken out of their intended context to make a point. If you want proof of this I ask that you cut and paste 5 verses before and 5 verses after each one and lets see if anything you quoted still supports what you've said here.
(January 29, 2013 at 8:40 am)Esquilax Wrote: Two things: Despite this claim that the old testament is a falsehood concocted by men, theists still tend to cherry pick from it the things they like (the commandments, for one. Leviticus, if you're a bigotActually no. I can only think of One expression of Christianity who doctrinally support all The 10 Commandments.) so regardless of whether or not it represents the will of god, it certainly still represents the will of theists.
Quote:And as for god's responsibility for them... could he not- should he not- step in and intervene if he's being misrepresented? His lack of action in this represents, at the very least, a tacit acceptance of all the violence and death the old testament caused.duh.. He commanded all of the death and destruction caused in the OT.