RE: The logical consequences of omnipotence
January 31, 2013 at 3:21 pm
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2013 at 3:24 pm by Violet.)
(January 31, 2013 at 3:09 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I was raring up to argue against this, not let you off the hook so easily, but... what's the point? If we've progressed to a point where demanding evidence for assertions counts as "a dogpile of stupidity" to you, then your position is beyond hope.
Oh, and "you wouldn't understand," is not an answer. Especially not when the bible charges all believers with being ready to provide that answer. It's kind of what witnessing is all about, no?
If it was one person, that'd be one thing... but when a whole bunch of people are demanding the impossible from you, I rather don't think 'nuh uh' is a poor reaction.
Fr0d0 Wrote:As a non Christian you lose it. You cannot rationalise a just reality made possible with God without God.
This is simply true... sure, one can rationalise a just reality without God. but one CANNOT rationalise a just reality made possible with God... without God. That is logically contradictory

It has nothing to do with understanding, only to do with that which was stated. One cannot have something made by God, without God. There's actually a fairly deep philosophical depth this statement has, going so far as to suggest that 'without God, one cannot have things made by God'.
Which is to say... 'One must have a pure faith in God before one can have God.'
(January 31, 2013 at 3:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It's a different subject EQ. You're on a lost ticket on this tack. Best retreat now and start from somewhere logically viable.
I'm working on getting him there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8grw0aTWzs
I miss hearing Rhythm sing~

Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day