RE: The logical consequences of omnipotence
February 8, 2013 at 1:44 am
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2013 at 1:46 am by Darkstar.)
(February 8, 2013 at 12:31 am)catfish Wrote: I'm really surprised when an atheist claims to have read the Bible and then fights me tooth and nail when I bring up these "points". Even Yeshua (Jesus) called the scribes and Pharisees hypocrites...
"Tooth and nail"? Claimed to have read the bible? Where is this? Do I come across as extremely agressive or something, because I did not intend any vitrol whatsoever in my posts.
Okay, I have "read the bible" in that I have read some of it, but I have not read the whole bible. I am aware that Jesus/Yeshua called the Pharisses hypocrites, but most of the violence is (I think) in the OT.
(February 8, 2013 at 12:31 am)catfish Wrote: The prophets were "sent" every time the Israelites fucked up... They condemned sacrifices, they condemned the murders, they condemned the idolitry.
I don't know about you, but I can recall god specifically commanding murders and sacrifices at times.
As for condemning idolitry, you have a solid case. In fact, I don't think any even vaguely legitimate [by religious standards] religious source has tried to claim idolitry was okay. In the bible, people went to it a couple times (like with he gold statue they were worshipping when Moses was away), but they were havily punished for it. Now, I know that the ownership of a cross could be arguably called idolitry, even though they aren't worshipping the idol itself, but what it represents. However, this point is irrelevant to my argument.
Also, keep in mind that the breaking of any of the commandments was punishable by death, and god specifically ordered the execution of someone who picked up sticks on the sabbath (though this most likely isn't the "murder" that was being referred to).
Numbers 15
Coincidentally, I found this just above it:
What was that about sacrifices? (Keep in mind that this is Moses speaking, being told this directly by god, as indicated by the first verse of the chapter.)
EDIT: Heck, the entire top section of the chapter is god commanding sacrifice after sacrifice.