(February 10, 2013 at 4:05 am)Drich Wrote: Let me guess you've never ventured past your mother's sight till you went to school, and even then you never wandered far?
God you're an arrogant little shit, aren't you?
Quote:In your "critical thinking" you have missed this little 'critical' tid-bit. Perception is everything, content/substance means very little when individuals are scared and frightened. IF This poor woman Sold herself as a Witch then to the less informed for All practical purposes she was a witch. One need not have any other qualification. (lest you forget the Salem witch trials)
Yes, and it doesn't make them any less wrong for burning her. But keep your note about perception in mind for a little later on, because I intend to beat your argument to death with it.

Quote:I am a licensed to carry concealed firearms, and when I carry large sums of money I do, yet somehow I still find myself "AVOIDING VIOLENT THUGS WHO WOULD DO ME HARM, as Apposed to Stopping the Thugs in the First Place." Call me old fashioned because I subscribe to the whole (A crime has not been committed, till the actual crime gets committed philosophy.) You may Crave the world the Minority Report World Tom Cruise lived in, but I don't. Even if that means I don't get to openly carry large sums of cash, and have to go out of my way to avoid people who may do me harm for the money I carry.
Excuse me? Minority Report? We're straw manning me this early? Do you think it's crazy to have a reasonable expectation of walking down the street without being set upon by criminals? Do you think these people should be excused for having violent thoughts in the first place?
Yes, of course it's prudent to avoid confrontation like that if you can, and if you weren't so stuck on exaggerating every argument that comes your way rather than responding to it, you'd see that I never argued that in the first place. However, why should we just bow our heads and avoid those who would do us harm, rather than addressing why?
Quote:]Not the issue being discussed.
It is if you keep insisting it's somehow her fault for being burnt alive.
Quote:I'm confused was this woman murder by Old Testament Jews? Or do you simply not understand the division between Old Testament Judaism and Christianity?
Remember that perception thing we talked about earlier? It doesn't fucking matter what your perception of the bible is, in this case. It matters what the people committing the crime believed, and they believed themselves to be good Christians, given that once again, Christian nation.
I know you're so amazingly arrogant that you believe your own unsubstantiated perversion of your religion is the only one that matters, but it's not. Try to keep that in mind: even within your own religion, you are in the minority.
Quote:Apparently you do not understand the context or the meaning of "Self righteousness." You are using it as an insult. I used it because your action literally fit the actual definition of the term.
Oh my god how can you be so dumb?
Quote:See the post i left Cato
The one where you sneered and said "look it up yourself?" Oh, I did.
Quote: no I do not. For all I did in my original post was to draw a parallel. In that Christians tend to avoid regions where they are being used as fire wood.
So if you don't think that, why are you defending it here? I guess you only care about persecution when you're the one being persecuted?
Quote:To stir the pot, See I like starting out using an argument most LAZY Atheists can easily identify. One that starts out sounding like an old Christian standby argument that most atheist have encountered many times. But then I put a twist on it to catch these lazy people off guard. It makes them think for themselves to come up with something to address this new argument, or it identifies those who can't think for themselves and simply push on with the standard atheist argument to combat the standard Christian argument I started out with... Which are you Equlax?
Two things: one, hearing you talking about getting other people to think is pretty rich, given you never seem to think about what we tell you, at all.
And second, at least do me the courtesy of spelling my fucking name right.
Quote:Why do i do it?
To see how deep the rabbit hole goes. To see how ingrained are those who will answer are. To see if you paying attention, or if you are arguing to argue. In this case I hoped to show you how 'thin' a veil popular morality can be.
Popular morality? What the fuck are you even talking about? Not one of us is arguing that murder is fine.
Quote:On one hand I get 'checked' everytime i say "You people" or Those people, and on the other "you people" have worked yourself into a frenzy, just because i question this poor lady's role in this whole mess. When you all saw an opportunity to soap box your 'morality' over what you thought was a Salem witch hunter's question, you All cast your core values to the wind in hope of hanging me out to dry. All of you are guilty of bigoted remarks, condemning Christianity, the community this woman lived in to even condemning the whole Island nation reducing them to cannibals. All the while skirting the FACT that neither the community, religion nor Nation in Question has laws promoting the burning of witches. Which makes this a senseless murder. Not a state sanctioned murder, Not a Religiously sanctioned Murder, Not even a Community wide sanctioned Murder.
Please provide just one quote from this thread that is bigoted, or that condemned anything other than the people who committed the crime and the religion that inspired it.
And no matter how much you blind yourself to it, yes there are religious instructions in the bible regarding witches, and odds on those instructions led to this turn of events.
Quote:To say it was more, to say it was the fault of the state or a given religion only shows your personal Prejudices against a given group of affiliation of people.
Or perhaps it shows a genuine conviction in the concept? How about this, Drich: if the religion wasn't to blame, kindly provide us with an alternate hypothesis. Where did this belief in witches, and this method and desire to dispose of them come from, if not the bible?
Put your money where your mouth is, genius.
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