RE: Woman burned alive for 'sorcery' in Papua New Guinea
February 10, 2013 at 9:14 pm
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2013 at 9:28 pm by Violet.)
(February 8, 2013 at 10:19 pm)Esquilax Wrote: "Was she wearing skimpy clothing out in public? Did she present herself as wanting to get raped?"
Well, if she was wearing skimpy clothing in public, it's wholly possible that her doing so contributed to her being raped. No, we shouldn't blame her for someone else's lack of control/overwhelming desire/power trip... but we certainly can tell her that she was taking an unnecessary risk, and would be less likely to be taken as a sexual objective if she wasn't showing herself off as a sexual objective
Really, I do worry when a pretty thing has dressed herself scantily... because if how she's presenting herself is giving rise to my sexual interests: it's also likely giving rise to the sexual interests of someone with far less control/restraint... or a far greater desire to subjugate another to one's dominance.
(February 10, 2013 at 3:52 am)Esquilax Wrote: Hey Drich? Has it ever occurred to you that people can be angry at more than one thing at a time? The fact is, it goes without saying that we're angry at the people who burned her. The simple fact that we're condemning the burning of this woman at all implies we don't like the act! There's nothing racist here, you blithering idiot. Not one of us has mentioned race, let alone in a negative context. The one difference between what we're doing and what you're doing is that we're all intellectually honest enough to see that religion is clearly at fault here too.
I'm not angry... but filled with a sort-of condescending pity. The act is a symptom, and there are many other acts of varying fatality for the people who live there...
Religion here, is also a symptom. That these people's culture is one of fear is likely the shaky foundation upon which their religious understanding is built. When the earth quakes, the building topples, and panic rules the minds of the masses.
Quote:Because, and think this one through carefully, but where do you think these people got the idea that witches exist at all? Or that they're a threat that needs to be put down? There's no physical evidence of witchcraft, because witchcraft does not exist. Where are they most likely to have gotten these ideas from? They're not naturally occurring concepts, after all.
Before Christianity and Islam existed, there were witches. I don't believe they consider an individual witch a threat. Their is plenty of 'physical' evidence that witches exist, not that these people are concerned with the physical.
If witchcraft isn't 'naturally occurring', why is it so very prevalent?
Quote:But, crazy as it sounds, they do appear in the holy book that these people, belonging to a predominantly christian nation, will have read. And lo and behold, despite your ignorant denials, there are indeed exhortations to murder witches in that same book! How crazy! /sarcasm.
Strange then, that so many of them do not or cannot read.
One wonders why Jesus wasn't murde-oh wait.
Quote:Funnily enough, there's not exactly a huge tradition of atheists burning witches, now is there? I wonder why that would be? After all, according to you, religion doesn't come into it, so there should be at least some evidence of that...
We're too busy pleasuring witches to be overly concerned with burning them alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d8hZtvRPno
Or was that just me?
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day