Woman burned alive for 'sorcery' in Papua New Guinea

[Drich]

What I'm saying is that yes, there are biblical literalists out there who disagree with you that the old testament has nothing for them.

4th time who are they?

There are also varying degrees of this; churches that follow some of the old testament without following all of it. Seventh Day Adventists and Southern Baptists do this. It's not a matter of cartoonish extremes; your religion is one of immense subtlety, in terms of who and what its adherents decide to follow.

So it is your belief that the churches mention burn witches? Wrong, who else you got?

Let me put it this way: there are 30,000 different christian denominations. When they die, the followers of 29,999 of those are going to be shocked to find they haven't been worshipping exactly the right god, at a minimum. What basis do you have to believe that you're a part of the one group who got it right?

We are talking about burning witches red herring monger, Not about what day christians goto church.

Again show me a Christ centered Chruch that worships the God of the bible by burning witches.

This is one of those things you have to prove. You say that, but at the same time you have religious leaders even in America calling for gay people to be put to death, something that probably falls under this "don't murder" rule you're clinging to here. Just do a search for Curtis Knapp: here's a guy whose message is completely contradicting your own, but he's able to provide scriptural bases for it.

Show me one that does. Show me a church that fires up an alter and burns gays.

And there were christians not that long ago who murdered witches in Salem. Why were they wrong and you right? What makes your position correct?

Again Acts 8. We are the New Testament Chruch and it is by this covenant that our church was established. (Acts 8 and Peter's example sets the example for all Christian Chruches) If the Salem Church was following the OT example then quite logically they were not a NT Church were they? Then by Defination they were NOT a Christian Church! As Christ was not apart of the OT 'church' was He?

You can spin the bible so it's for any position you care to mention; my question to you is, why is your interpretation correct? So far, all you've done is assert that it is, over and over. Prove it.

Proof what does this proof look like?

I am saying the NT Repersents Christianity, and the OT repersents Judaism. The bible is the proof of that. Read the bible! Show me some thing that says the NT does not repersent Christianity. Show me that I am wrong. IF That is your assertion now you proove it!

Except the ones that did, historically. You can't say it's impossible when it did literally happen. Besides which, my point here is that the burden of proof is on you in terms of your scriptural interpretations. Why are you correct to begin with?

There is no interpertation here. The instructions on how to deal with witches are Found in Acts 8.. What are you even talking about?

Beyond that, here you go: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/18...24943.html

Proof enough for you?

No. It's not. The preacher supposedly identified the boy as a witch. that ends the church involvement. Everything else that happened to the boy was on his father.
Was there a church held cermony? Are their any biblical examples of what the father did to the boys?? No! The Father did what he did out of his own ignorance and fear. Where will this man's heart be when he reads acts 8, and our instructions on how to deal with suspected witches? how will he reconcile the gap between what he did and what the bible teaches?

Okay, you've stated your original position again. Good. Now, can you please prove it, finally?

Yes in the fact out of 30,000 different denominations of the church there are no church that activly burn witches as a means of worship or as an obligation to 'god.'
Even in the two cases discussed here in this thread Neither witch burnings happened as a command handed down to through the offical church. These were events that happened to people outside of the church.

Does this mean those in that church did not share in the blood spilled? absolutly not. But even so the leadership that spawned these witch hunts, did so outside the authority of the church because they knew these were not sanctioned acts. Otherwise why not do it on saturday or sunday mornings like they did in salem?

Where do you draw the line? When does a "ceremonial difference" become a "branch difference?" Let me guess, you're the one who decides that? You're just ignoring the evidence because it doesn't suit your purposes.

where do we draw the line? HOW ABOUT BURNING PEOPLE, I hope for your sake you are truly not this dense. I established this like 10 posts ago. When denominational differences was first brought up. The differences/divisions in the church are cermonial/doctrinal. (when/how to worship) What is known as the 'moral law'

The direct Thou shalt nots of the New testament are seldomly disputed amongest bible centered churches Their will always be some, but Even so There are No 'christian/bible centered Churches that burn people for witch craft as a means/obligation of worship.

Not really, because like I've said, not everyone agrees with you. Sometimes the text is spun a different way.

again no spinning here. Because there are no bible centered churches that burn witches. Otherwise prove me wrong or admit your arguement fails.

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Book chapter and verse.

Why would there be a book chapter and verse explicityly defining "sorcerer" in the bible?

In the bible, magic is real. We have:

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Acts 8:9
Simon the Sorcerer

9 Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great,

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Acts 16:16

Paul and Silas in Prison

16 Once when we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a female slave who had a spirit by which she predicted the future. She earned a great deal of money for her owners by fortune-telling.

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Exodus 7:10-11

10 So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the Lord commanded. Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. 11 Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts:

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Exodus 8:6-7

6 So Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt, and the frogs came up and covered the land. 7 But the magicians did the same things by their secret arts; they also made frogs come up on the land of Egypt.

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How can you call yourself a sorcerer if you can't at least make frogs come out of the ground? They're obviously not True Witches™.

...but seriously, though, where did all of these magical powers go? My original thread on the topic never reached an answer...

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You have failed to show me one. you have pointed to cermonial differences but you have not once named a single branch of biblically based Christianity who has adopted a witch burning doctrine.

Adopted? Thay just never got rid of the old one...

Actually there is. there are a couple of stories that identifies sourcerers/witches and tells of their 'power.'

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I am not insisting on a damned thing from a fictional character. That would be like me expecting Superman to save me. You don't expect anything from Mickey Mouse do you? You don't demand that Harry Potter buy you a broom do you?

I am talking about YOU and your absurd logic, in the same ignorance that kept me believing for so long. I am talking about the bad use of logic that leads humans to make up gods and swallow what sounds pretty to them.

Meh, Meh...