Woman burned alive for 'sorcery' in Papua New Guinea

[Drich]

Drich, I wish to apologize: I didn't realize I was dealing with someone who is insane/mentally challenged/otherwise defective. I thought I was dealing with a completely conscious human being, but it's become apparent I've actually been talking to some kind of sponge with a bible lodged in it.

I refuse to believe that a fully functional human being could be this dense and idiotic on their own. You couldn't have missed the point of any one of my salient arguments more if you tried. I've come to believe, in fact, that you don't have a consistent viewpoint at all, because nothing in your inane and pathetic ramblings even hints at one, beyond "durr, bible good!"

So fuck off. I'm done with you. And I don't usually do this, but I'm willing to call this debate in favor of me, by dint of the fact that I was the only one here actually thinking before he spoke. Try developing a working brain, and then we might talk.

Your position:
I can't possiable repersent the whole Christianity, because you believe thier are so many versions of it correct?

This is not what this thread is about. Look at the title again. It about burning witches.

Now if you believe that I can not repersent the whole of Christianity and that some churches are activly burning witches as a form of worship to the God of the bible then it is on you to provide proof that there are churches that activly do this. Other wise know your whole arguement is invalid.

Why?

Because again we are not talking about whether christians are to worship on saturday or sunday, whether or not christians are to celibrate christmas, or whether or not we have musical instruments in our worship services. Or even whether or not gay preachers should be allow. We are Specifically talking about Burning people or even killing them for practicing witchcraft. I told you out of 30,000 some odd churches not one incoperates a witch burning cermony in it's corperate/offical worship model.

If you say otherwise, it is on your to provide PROOF.

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why do you assume the passages I mention in the bible (ones you did not even know about) agree with your assessment of what a witch is?

I don't know if they do or don't, and maybe the sign that you didn't show me these passages isn't indicative of their being against your agrument but more of you not tending to present such things.

Let's see what google has to say about your missing passage:
http://bible.cc/exodus/22-18.htm

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Clarke's Commentary on the Bible
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live - If there had been no witches, such a law as this had never been made. The existence of the law, given under the direction of the Spirit of God, proves the existence of the thing. It has been doubted whether מכשפה mecash-shephah, which we translate witch, really means a person who practiced divination or sorcery by spiritual or infernal agency. Whether the persons thus denominated only pretended to have an art which had no existence, or whether they really possessed the power commonly attributed to them, are questions which it would be improper to discuss at length in a work of this kind; but that witches, wizards, those who dealt with familiar spirits, etc., are represented in the sacred writings as actually possessing a power to evoke the dead, to perform, supernatural operations, and to discover hidden or secret things by spells, charms, incantations, etc., is evident to every unprejudiced reader of the Bible.

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Gill's Exposition of the entire Bible
Thou shall not suffer a witch to live. Such that had familiar spirits, and conversed with them, and by means thereof got knowledge of many things relating to persons, at least pretending they did; and who did or seemed to do many strange and surprising feats, as even to raise the spirits of departed persons, to converse with them and gain knowledge by them, though in reality they did not, and could not do such things, but used some juggling tricks to deceive the people, and in which they might be assisted by evil spirits

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Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live;" witchcraft being, on the one hand, "the vilest way of injuring a neighbour in his property, or even in his body and life" (Ranke), whilst, on the other hand, employment of powers of darkness for the purpose of injuring a neighbour was a practical denial of the divine vocation of Israel, as well as of Jehovah the Holy One of Israel. The witch is mentioned instead of the wizard, "not because witchcraft was not to be punished in the case of men, but because the female sex was more addicted to this crime" (Calovius). תחיּה לא (shalt not suffer to live) is chosen instead of the ordinary יוּמת מות (shall surely die), which is used in Leviticus 20:27 of wizards also, not "because the lawgiver intended that the Hebrew witch should be put to death in any case, and the foreigner only if she would not go when she was banished" (Knobel), but because every Hebrew witch was not to be put to death, but regard was to be had to the fact that witchcraft is often nothing but jugglery, and only those witches were to be put to death who would not give up their witchcraft when it was forbidden.

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Wesley's Notes
22:18 Witchcraft not only gives that honour to the devil which is due to God alone, but bids defiance to the divine providence, wages war with God's government, puts his work into the devil's hand expecting him to do good and evil. By our law, consulting, covenanting with, invocating or employing any evil spirit to any intent whatever, and exercising any enchantment, charm, or sorcery, whereby hurt shall be done to any person, is made felony, without benefit of clergy; also pretending to tell where goods lost or stolen may be found, is an iniquity punishable by the judge, and the second offence with death. This was the case in former times. But we are wiser than our fore - fathers. We believe, no witch ever did live! At least, not for these thousand years.

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Now, which of these os the True Christian™ interpretation?

weren't we just talking about what the biblical definations were for a witch or sorcerer? What do your commentaries have to do with anything?

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Meh nothing, you have no evidence for your invisible friend.

But I do have evidence that I do not lable all who disagree with me as a bigot. If you remember 3 or 4 posts back that is what started all of this. Again I do not consider you a religious bigot simply because your beliefs and how you approach theology are benign at best.

The last 3 or 4 posts were just meant to prove that point.