RE: A real study about Islamic sources & Hadiths :
February 14, 2013 at 5:08 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2013 at 5:22 pm by WinterHold.)
(February 14, 2013 at 12:15 pm)Zone Wrote: But that does mean that if you doubt the historicity of the Bible then you're going to equally doubt the Quran as well.
No, not at all. The reason behind the Quran is to fix the corruption which reached the bible. The bible you see now is not the real deal, and I have the evidence actually.
It's not a direct speech from god in its whole like the Quran, it's a collection of stories, visions & events which Saints have wrote ; that's not the direct word from god, the bible of today is the same as the Islamic "Hadith", it's a collection rather than documenting a direct speech from god to Jesus.
Yes, parts of it contain that direct speech, but not all of it. Almost like a mixture between the Quran & the Hadith -for example-.
That's our concern with the bible, and that's why we don't take it as a whole for granted. The same reason also why the Quran has also came, to be a direct speech from god from A to Z.
(February 14, 2013 at 12:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:I remember that this habit also existed in Christian Europe also, the Church monopolized education, a very disgusting habit.
I don't know about "disgusting habit," I suspect that is just modern bias creeping in.
Literacy is an expensive skill to acquire and it is not unreasonable that people with no use for it would not bother to attain the skill. Your average peasant farmer worked from sun up to sun down in a subsistence economy. He did not have the time to read nor the ability to purchase reading material which was rare and expensive.
mmm, I might agree on that, makes sense.
But come on, there was a monopoly over knowledge at that time. because the amount of ignorance was insane.
It was better during the time of Alfred the great, the guy spread education between everybody. But later, it was clear that what he did stopped by somebody else, and for some reason the church remained the only place to find people who can actually read.
(February 14, 2013 at 4:46 pm)ThatMuslimGuy Wrote: Cool post. Im interested. How do you like prayer? And how do you know about events in muhammad's life. Do you accept sira litrature?
Hi.
I didn't understand your question : "how do you like prayer"
About the events in the prophet's life, I actually think they are not that important to my faith. I believe in god, I also believe that Mohammed peace be upon him, followed the Quran only. If he received anything extra, god would've told us.
The sira to me is nothing more than an ancient script written by somebody who claimed that this is the story of the Prophet. I would read it, compare what I read with the Quran, if they match I'll try to fetch a lesson from that, learn the lesson.
