RE: Woman burned alive for 'sorcery' in Papua New Guinea
February 14, 2013 at 8:12 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2013 at 8:17 pm by Mystical.)
Boys boys boys! What will people reading this thread think at this point? I'll tell you what. That civility has been thrown out the window and your plausible arguments are now null and void. They aren't, of course, but if you just get into name calling then this thread will die. And I for one like this thread because it brings to light something that needs brought to the surface. Drich, please refrain from calling people names. It's unprofessional and obviously misleads the conversation. Fact is, 96% of the country claim to be Christians. Thus no bigotry is being conducted in conversing about whether this was the instrument of condemnation. That's what a discussion is all about. Stating what in the bible can be misconstrued by the New Guineans is not out of the realm of discussion here. More can be accomplished, civilly.
All this name calling and cat fighting horribly diminishes the matter of fact that a woman was set on fire here. A woman, was set, on fire.
Are we going to bicker until the next incident happens then do the same damn thing? Or are we going to figure out why it happened and prevent it from happening in the future?
Papua New Guinea cops save women from witch burning
PORT MORESBY: Papua New Guinea police have rescued two women accused of sorcery who were about to be set alight, a report said.
Thursday, 14 February 2013
Sorcery cases have been a priority for authorities after the horrific case of a 20-year-old woman who last week was stripped naked, doused with petrol and set alight before a crowd, Highlands divisional police commander Teddy Tei told The National newspaper. The woman, who was accused of causing the death of a six-year-old boy using sorcery, died after being tortured with a branding iron, tied up and set alight on a pile of rubbish in Mount Hagen in the Western Highlands. The National said in the latest incident on Monday, also in Mount Hagen, two elderly women were tied to poles and people were preparing to set them alight over the death of an eight-year-old girl.
The girl's relatives believed the women caused the death of the child using sorcery but Tei said she had been "gang-raped and killed by two known suspects" and these suspects were part of the mob attacking the older women. With them was a "glassman"- a man who claimed to have supernatural powers and who had identified the luckless women as sorcerers and claimed they were responsible for the child's death.
Tei said police, who were tipped off by a witness to the incident near Kagamuga Airport, rescued the women and arrested 20 suspects. He appealed to the public not to take the law into their own hands in the Pacific nation where there is a widespread belief in sorcery and where many people do not accept natural causes as an explanation for misfortune and death. "What evidence do they have to produce to court for sorcery-related killing and torturing?" Tei said. "It's just a belief."
Prime Minister Peter O'Neill has described as "barbaric" killings associated with sorcery and has instructed police to bring culprits to justice. "Barbaric killings connected with alleged sorcery; violence against women because of this belief that sorcery kills- these are becoming all too common in certain parts of the country," he said last week.
The government is encouraging families who are unsure about the cause of a loved one's death to take the body to a doctor to carry out a post-mortem. (Sapa-AFP)
All this name calling and cat fighting horribly diminishes the matter of fact that a woman was set on fire here. A woman, was set, on fire.
Are we going to bicker until the next incident happens then do the same damn thing? Or are we going to figure out why it happened and prevent it from happening in the future?
Papua New Guinea cops save women from witch burning
PORT MORESBY: Papua New Guinea police have rescued two women accused of sorcery who were about to be set alight, a report said.
Thursday, 14 February 2013
Sorcery cases have been a priority for authorities after the horrific case of a 20-year-old woman who last week was stripped naked, doused with petrol and set alight before a crowd, Highlands divisional police commander Teddy Tei told The National newspaper. The woman, who was accused of causing the death of a six-year-old boy using sorcery, died after being tortured with a branding iron, tied up and set alight on a pile of rubbish in Mount Hagen in the Western Highlands. The National said in the latest incident on Monday, also in Mount Hagen, two elderly women were tied to poles and people were preparing to set them alight over the death of an eight-year-old girl.
The girl's relatives believed the women caused the death of the child using sorcery but Tei said she had been "gang-raped and killed by two known suspects" and these suspects were part of the mob attacking the older women. With them was a "glassman"- a man who claimed to have supernatural powers and who had identified the luckless women as sorcerers and claimed they were responsible for the child's death.
Tei said police, who were tipped off by a witness to the incident near Kagamuga Airport, rescued the women and arrested 20 suspects. He appealed to the public not to take the law into their own hands in the Pacific nation where there is a widespread belief in sorcery and where many people do not accept natural causes as an explanation for misfortune and death. "What evidence do they have to produce to court for sorcery-related killing and torturing?" Tei said. "It's just a belief."
Prime Minister Peter O'Neill has described as "barbaric" killings associated with sorcery and has instructed police to bring culprits to justice. "Barbaric killings connected with alleged sorcery; violence against women because of this belief that sorcery kills- these are becoming all too common in certain parts of the country," he said last week.
The government is encouraging families who are unsure about the cause of a loved one's death to take the body to a doctor to carry out a post-mortem. (Sapa-AFP)
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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