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Is Satan evil?
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RE: Is Satan evil?
(February 22, 2013 at 1:57 am)catfish Wrote: No, the hint is to figure out the original Greek word and look up the definition.
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Okay, I looked it up:

KAI APELEUSONTAI OUTOI EIS KOLASIN AIÔNION, OI DE DIKAIOI EIS ZÔÊN AIÔNION


And these will go away into punishment eternal (unending/undefined end), but the just into life eternal.

You're point is...?

(February 22, 2013 at 6:57 am)EGross Wrote:
(February 22, 2013 at 1:23 am)Question Mark Wrote: Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life

The only hint I can imagine here is that you're going to try and translate it into something less like casting "ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels (Matt 25:41)"

Here is a reasonable answer, since apparently nonne is coming:

Matthew 24:46 relates to a verse 5 lines earlier, which speaks of Satan and his minions and everlasting fire (yes, the greek words for "fire of it's everlasting" is in there). And the last verse speaks of eternal life for the good, and eternal punishment for the evil, and what kind of eternal punishment? That has already been established - fire.

However, it does not speak of this happening all the time, but only at the "end of days" after the "coming of the christ" (25:31), so where these souls go right after death before that time, according to Christian theology, can cannot really be derived from this section of the text. Although it does say that any evil will have eternal punishment, and the earlier verse tells us it will be fire and Satan will be handling that aspect of it, so we can assume that Jeffrey Dahmer, while existing somewhere, will get what he deserves in the end, maybe, but that is apparently not in effect today, based on this text alone.

Well surely WHEN the eternal torture happens is rather a moot point. There's an eternity between when the punishment starts and when it ends.
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.
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Messages In This Thread
Is Satan evil? - by Ryantology - February 21, 2013 at 8:06 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Something completely different - February 21, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Confused Ape - February 21, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by The Magic Pudding - February 21, 2013 at 9:06 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by PyroManiac - February 21, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Drich - February 21, 2013 at 12:39 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by tokutter - February 21, 2013 at 1:33 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by LastPoet - February 21, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Drich - February 21, 2013 at 3:12 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Ryantology - February 21, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Minimalist - February 21, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Confused Ape - February 21, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by EGross - February 21, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by pocaracas - February 21, 2013 at 12:49 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Cinjin - February 22, 2013 at 1:51 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 12:51 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by The Grand Nudger - February 21, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by EGross - February 21, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Confused Ape - February 21, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by EGross - February 21, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Minimalist - February 21, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 21, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Neo-Scholastic - February 21, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Ryantology - February 21, 2013 at 10:44 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by catfish - February 21, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Esquilax - February 21, 2013 at 11:02 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Minimalist - February 21, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Gooders1002 - February 21, 2013 at 10:39 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by catfish - February 21, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Question Mark - February 21, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by catfish - February 22, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 1:22 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by catfish - February 22, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 2:44 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Zen Badger - February 22, 2013 at 6:11 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by catfish - February 22, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by catfish - February 22, 2013 at 1:57 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 8:38 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by catfish - February 22, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Question Mark - February 22, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by EGross - February 22, 2013 at 6:57 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Ben Davis - February 22, 2013 at 7:09 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by The Magic Pudding - February 22, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Confused Ape - February 22, 2013 at 9:59 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by CapnAwesome - February 22, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Confused Ape - February 22, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by John V - February 22, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by CapnAwesome - February 22, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by CapnAwesome - February 22, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Confused Ape - February 22, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Ryantology - February 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by EGross - February 23, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Jackalope - February 23, 2013 at 6:21 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by thesummerqueen - February 22, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by thesummerqueen - February 22, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by genkaus - February 23, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by Angrboda - February 23, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Is Satan evil? - by genkaus - February 23, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by thesummerqueen - February 23, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by genkaus - February 23, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by CapnAwesome - February 23, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Is Satan evil? - by thesummerqueen - March 11, 2013 at 8:56 am

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