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Israel
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RE: Israel
Wow AtlasS, you have so many things wrong.
(February 23, 2013 at 8:14 am)AtlasS Wrote: 1) Is Israel founded based on religious views ?
Okay, here's your first problem. Is Israel founded based on religions views? What about Saudi Arabia, what about Pakistan, what about all the other Islamic States?

This is the entire problem with the "two state solution" is that it aims to cater to the demands of two RELIGIOUS States.

Have you ever heard of freedom of religion? What about separation of Church and State? Separation of Church and State simply means that the State government is not controlled by and is independent from religious structures and organizations.
Quote:From the naming of the country & its symbol, we can conclude due to symbolic evidence & Jewish/Biblical folklore that the state of Israel is a country with a "Jewish Identity", built as the modern equivalent of the ancient kingdom of Israel, which gathered the ancient Jews under one flag.
So what? Do you have any idea how many Islamic States there are??
Quote:2)The Eligibility of the jews for the land

according to the previous source, the earliest immigration to Palistine -the place which is now occupied & declared as a separate place called "Israel- was after the Spanish inquisition in the 15th century.
So what? It wasn't until the late 18th century that Australia was colonized by the Europeans. Should we pack up shop and leave so that an Aboriginal State can be established here? Should we divide the land into a two-state-solution and give 50% of Australia to aborigines?

Tell me, in how many Islamic States could Jews decide to live happily and not face persecution from the Islamic Governments?
Quote:It was then, when the civil war started between native Palestnians & immigrating Jews, with the support of the british government -and almost all of Europe- to the foreign immigrants, which caused other arab countries to support their palestinian ally.
You are unbelievable. You mean to tell us that people who have lived in the land for over 600 years you see as "foreign immigrants" and not "natives". Tell me where is their homeland then that they can return to?
Quote:one reason for arab outrage, is giving the natives 43% of the land only. The jews thought it was "a minimum" ; which supports the claim of jewish greed over the rest of the land. More information can be found here.
Yes you're right, a secular state should have been established in Israel which would have allowed both Jew and Arab to live peacefully together.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


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Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 23, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 10:07 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 1:33 pm
RE: Israel - by CapnAwesome - February 23, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 24, 2013 at 3:31 am
RE: Israel - by Aractus - February 24, 2013 at 5:12 am
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 24, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 24, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Israel - by Aractus - February 25, 2013 at 7:11 am
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 7:37 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 8:21 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Israel - by A Theist - February 24, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Israel - by Aractus - February 23, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Israel - by Mystical - February 24, 2013 at 4:55 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 24, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 24, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 8:21 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 24, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 24, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 24, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 24, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 24, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Israel - by A Theist - February 25, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Israel - by CapnAwesome - February 25, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Israel - by Nine - February 25, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Israel - by Nine - February 25, 2013 at 8:22 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:42 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:47 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:52 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Israel - by Creed of Heresy - February 25, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Israel - by Cinjin - February 25, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Israel - by Cinjin - February 25, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: Israel - by Cinjin - February 25, 2013 at 7:46 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: Israel - by Nine - February 25, 2013 at 8:44 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 26, 2013 at 2:44 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 26, 2013 at 4:03 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 26, 2013 at 8:23 am
RE: Israel - by Aractus - February 26, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 27, 2013 at 1:57 am

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