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Israel
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RE: Israel
Quote:Yes they are foreign immigrants & yes, that war started after importing almost a million jew to israel to establish the kingdom of israel after the disapora !
What war are you speaking of here specifically? Sorry if I missed you stating it already.
Quote:nobody had problems with early small immigrations, for 600 years nobody talked..
Please clarify for me, are you saying you have issues with a 600yr old immigration? Are you saying that those people who immigrated to Israel 600yrs ago have no land rights today and that the 600yr old descendants retain claim to that land?
Quote:that war started after the arabs natives couldn't even find jobs from the mass jewish immigrations !
Specify the war you're speaking of please.
Quote:I really have nothing to say to you after this line, especially !
What are your oppositions to his statements?
Quote:According to this, Rythem, all the casualties of war are dead for nothing ! I can't imagine that or even accept it..
In my humble opinion: I agree that perhaps they are dead for nothing, as there will never be a resolution for either side. To go on killing on both sides over a 600yr old land dispute is what makes the casualties dead for nothing in the first place since it's obviously not feasable (short of genocide) for millions of people to uproot. The way I see it, any future killing is also for nothing. In my eyes the only way to make any past deaths worth anything is if the war stops peacefully. And it will never stop so long as Religion has anything to say about it, as these nations are obviously founded on religion as you have stated. Non-secular resolution is the only solution, as I see it.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 23, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 10:07 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 1:33 pm
RE: Israel - by CapnAwesome - February 23, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 23, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 24, 2013 at 3:31 am
RE: Israel - by Aractus - February 24, 2013 at 5:12 am
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 24, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 24, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Israel - by Aractus - February 25, 2013 at 7:11 am
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 7:37 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 8:21 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Israel - by A Theist - February 24, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 23, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Israel - by Aractus - February 23, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Israel - by Mystical - February 24, 2013 at 4:55 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 24, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 24, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 8:21 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 24, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 24, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 24, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 24, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 24, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: Israel - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2013 at 2:29 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Israel - by A Theist - February 25, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Israel - by CapnAwesome - February 25, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 4:19 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Israel - by Nine - February 25, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Israel - by Nine - February 25, 2013 at 8:22 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:42 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:47 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 6:52 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Israel - by Creed of Heresy - February 25, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Israel - by Cinjin - February 25, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Israel - by Cinjin - February 25, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: Israel - by Cinjin - February 25, 2013 at 7:46 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Israel - by Something completely different - February 25, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: Israel - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 25, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 25, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: Israel - by Nine - February 25, 2013 at 8:44 pm
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 26, 2013 at 2:44 am
RE: Israel - by WinterHold - February 26, 2013 at 4:03 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 26, 2013 at 8:23 am
RE: Israel - by Aractus - February 26, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: Israel - by EGross - February 27, 2013 at 1:57 am

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