Being good without god

[Esquilax]

Science is an on-going process of inquiry into the natural world. Those who treat its findings like Holy Script, like you seem to do, lack the spirit of critical thinking needed to advance its cause. Try not to forget that paradigm shifts happen all the time.

Are you... are you actually telling us off for believing in facts?

As to paradigm shifts... yes, scientific advances cause us to rethink our beliefs. That's called learning. It's not a weakness, it's not a sign of some underlying falsity in the scientific method. Why are you acting like it's a bad thing to change to fit reality, instead of barreling along a predetermined path regardless of the facts?

As for logic, have you ever considered that rational thought is only possible because the universe conforms to a pre-existing logical order?

Or, in a more realistic scenario, have you ever considered that we construct our concept of logic based upon the demonstrable, repeatable effects of our actions and the physical world around us, and that not once has anyone been able to demonstrate that a designer was behind this physical structure? That's where you were angling, no?

Sure, the effects that lead us to construct a logical process existed before we did, and came with the universe. How does that prove anything you want it to?