Israel

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What war are you speaking of here specifically? Sorry if I missed you stating it already.

Oah no problem at all.

A revolt took place in the past against jewish immigrations & British occupation. I have provided a link which states why this revolution started & what are its causes.

Mainly, it took place after the british have allowed huge numbers of jews to immigrate to Palestine.. My point was :

If america was invaded by russia. And then, russia allowed 10,000,000 chinese immigrants to get into the states & live with the same rights of americans, wouldn't americans revolt against the invasion + these mass immigrations ?

sadly, nobody answered me..

#note : russia represents britian in the above example, america represents Palestine, Chinese immigrants represent jew immigrants.

Please clarify for me, are you saying you have issues with a 600yr old immigration? Are you saying that those people who immigrated to Israel 600yrs ago have no land rights today and that the 600yr old descendants retain claim to that land?

Matter in fact ; no. Palestine belongs to many cultures -including the jews-. Muslims didn't have any problem with that for many years.

My problem was, what happened during WW2, when the Jewish immigrations became "massive", and the Palestinians really started to feel as strangers in their own land.

The British favored the Jews & gave them all high ranking jobs, and of course rumors of the "real reasons" for the mass immigrations started to spread within arabs..

The Second Aliyah (1904–14), began after the Kishinev pogrom; some 40,000 Jews settled in Palestine, although nearly half of them left at a later point in time.[56] Both the first and second waves of migrants were mainly Orthodox Jews,[60] although the Second Aliyah included socialist groups who established the kibbutz movement.[61] During World War I, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour sent a letter that stated:[62]
His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."[63]

This history is on wikipedia, just type "israel".

Specify the war you're speaking of please.

It was the war of 1948.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Israeli_conflict

What are your oppositions to his statements?

If the same thing happened to his country, he would not emphasize with the "others".. and I also bring the previous example which I gave you.

If Russia invaded America, and declared it a national home for the Chinese without consulting the Americans, and allowed ten million chinese to immigrate to america & live there with the same civil rights. Would he emphasize with China & Russia then ?

My opposition to his statement is the double standards. Just before in a previous comment, he stated that nobody is right in wars.

Then, how is he emphasizing with the Jews, while evidence proves there was a previous & very old agreement between Jewish Zionist leadrs & british to fool the arabs & take their country ? so it was a war, really, with Jews having armed forces & militias before the war between them & the arabs even start..

Further details can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Legion

In February 1915, a small committee in Alexandria approved a plan of Zeev Jabotinsky and Joseph Trumpeldor to form a Jewish military unit that would participate in the British effort to conquer Palestine from the Ottoman Empire.[1]

You see missluckie, double standards the jews started the war "literally" before any arab revolt or objection !.. then how is he emphasizing with them ?

isn't that just contradict all his posts ??

In my humble opinion: I agree that perhaps they are dead for nothing, as there will never be a resolution for either side. To go on killing on both sides over a 600yr old land dispute is what makes the casualties dead for nothing in the first place since it's obviously not feasable (short of genocide) for millions of people to uproot. The way I see it, any future killing is also for nothing. In my eyes the only way to make any past deaths worth anything is if the war stops peacefully. And it will never stop so long as Religion has anything to say about it, as these nations are obviously founded on religion as you have stated. Non-secular resolution is the only solution, as I see it.

Actually, allow me to correct something : Jews didn't fight us or even hated us in the past 600 years ; blood wasn't shed through all these years. The killing started after this took place :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Legion

So my problem with jews started after this legion was formed by zionist leaders.

Your opinion is correct ; I agree with you. The war must stop so peace can take place.