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Why can't God sin?
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RE: Why can't God sin?
(February 25, 2013 at 11:44 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: If God has free will, why doesn't he sin?

If we have free will, why do we sin?

What is it about God that allows him to have free will and not ever sin? Why can't humans be the same way?

The question is STUPID

First - GOD cannot have FREE WILL. IF a god is ALL KNOWING - then it cannot do anything other than what it already knows it will do - period. It does not have the ability to choose to do something it did NOT KNOW. "FREE" will has to mean the ability to choose from ALL possibilities - and that is not possible where everything is already known.

ANd HUMANS - in a world with an all knowing god - have the SAME Problem. IT makes NO difference if YOU CLAIM that a god just KNOWS our CHOICE - if the choice is KNOWN BEFORE we exist. Since humans are not eternal beings - WE make decisions ONLY during our lifetime. If a god exists that is ALL knowing - past - present - and future - as claimed for the Xtian god - then - AT THE TIME we make the decision - we do not have the ability to choose anything other than what is known already - and cannot choose to do something that the god does not know. ERGO - NO FREE WILL

However - the biggest problem with the monotheistic creation religions - where there was only ONE creator -is that they MUST be the source of ALL THINGS - good and evil. The "devil" - being a finite being - must have been created by the god - and evil is also created by the god.

A "sin: is defined as an offense against the god. IF the god is the UTLIMATE evil - which it MUST BE in a monotheism - then there is NO offense worse than what the god already is - so sin is simply NOT POSSIBLE..

Example - the god of the OLD testament murdered - lots of people.
In every population of people - there are babies and young children. EVEN the catholic church recognizes that very young children cannot sin BEFORE they reach an age of reason and responsibility - they say age seven. Makes no difference what age.

Currently - people under age 5 represent about 10 percent of the population - but in ancient times - when the lifespan was shorter - would have represented closer to 20 percent of the population.

THAT makes the Great Flood a murder of 20 percent of the people involved - too young to have sinned and be responsible for it.
However - the passover itself - it simply a murder of virtually every person that would have died - since NONE of them were personally responsible for the actions of their Pharaoh as well.

So - is murder an offense - to a murderer? Nope!
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Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 25, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 25, 2013 at 11:47 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 25, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 25, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 25, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 26, 2013 at 12:26 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 1:18 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 5:28 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ThomM - February 26, 2013 at 12:01 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Nobody - February 26, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 26, 2013 at 12:23 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ronedee - February 27, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ronedee - February 27, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Nobody - February 26, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 12:53 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Nobody - February 26, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2013 at 1:21 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ThomM - February 27, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 26, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Cinjin - February 26, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - February 26, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Cinjin - February 26, 2013 at 1:22 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Nobody - February 26, 2013 at 2:26 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 2:50 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 26, 2013 at 4:16 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Mystical - February 26, 2013 at 4:26 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 26, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 26, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Drich - February 27, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 27, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by The Magic Pudding - February 26, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 27, 2013 at 9:17 am
RE: Why can't God sin? - by ThomM - February 27, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by EGross - February 27, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: Why can't God sin? - by Mystical - March 2, 2013 at 10:45 pm

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