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New atheist.. question
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RE: New atheist.. question
(March 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm)catfish Wrote:
(March 25, 2013 at 1:48 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You don't have faith in your car, you have a reasonable expectation that it will work. But you do have faith in god, because you have no evidence to base your belief in him on. That better, catfish?

Pay attention... I have faith that it will start tomorrow.
Can you provide evidence for tomorrow?

Sure: the car's started yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that, and the majority of the days that you've owned it. You have a reasonable expectation that your car will start tomorrow based on the fact that it has a habit of starting for you, and because we can understand and view the mechanisms that cause your car to run.

It's the same with... I dunno, Pluto's orbit. We haven't known about Pluto for long enough for it to have made a complete orbit, but we know it will. Why? Because we have observed other planets making their orbit, and we've seen Pluto move; we have no reason to assume it won't continue on its course.

There's no faith in these things; we can observe them, and build patterns of behavior and reaction from this. But you can't do that with god, you can't even verify his presence and hence you need faith. That's the difference.
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New atheist.. question - by taylor93112 - March 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Silver - March 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by catfish - March 17, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by taylor93112 - March 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Minimalist - March 17, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by EGross - March 17, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Angrboda - March 17, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by JDS - March 17, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Minimalist - March 17, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by jstrodel - March 17, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Silver - March 17, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by JDS - March 17, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by jstrodel - March 17, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by fr0d0 - March 17, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by FallentoReason - March 17, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by KichigaiNeko - March 18, 2013 at 1:49 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by Minimalist - March 18, 2013 at 2:48 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by catfish - March 18, 2013 at 3:03 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - March 20, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Minimalist - March 20, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Tonus - March 20, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Cato - March 20, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Esquilax - March 20, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Sagasa - March 21, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by fr0d0 - March 21, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Sagasa - March 21, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by fr0d0 - March 22, 2013 at 2:51 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by Sagasa - March 22, 2013 at 4:13 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by jstrodel - March 21, 2013 at 8:44 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Angrboda - March 22, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by fr0d0 - March 22, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Sagasa - March 22, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by fr0d0 - March 22, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Sagasa - March 23, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by jstrodel - March 23, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Sagasa - March 24, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by fr0d0 - March 24, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by CapnAwesome - March 23, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Minimalist - March 23, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by jstrodel - March 24, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Sagasa - March 25, 2013 at 7:42 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by Darkstar - March 25, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by Joel - March 25, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: New atheist.. question - by KichigaiNeko - March 25, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Joel - March 25, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Minimalist - March 25, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Joel - March 25, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Joel - March 25, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by catfish - March 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: New atheist.. question - by Esquilax - March 25, 2013 at 3:12 pm

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