Soul

[Something completely different]

Since I'm dealing with a bunch of radical empiricists, I figure I need to start with something we observable. Look down. How many fingers are on your hands. Everyone counted eleven, right? Cool. So, we already have our immaterial. Eleven is a number. It's not material. You cannot go grab eleven and paint it green. You cannot throw eleven at your sister. Eleven is a quantity.

numbers are mesuring units attributed through the human mind.

as far as I know most of what we have in mathematics today originated from India - and not via some mystical bollocks.

Now there are two options for this, you can either say that eleven exists in reality and we are perceiving eleven or you can say it exists in our heads.

Or that people agreed to put a messuring unit on things, just like liters on water or kilos on other stuff. Oh yeah, you use a different system! which pritty much shows how variational messuring units are and therefor influenced by the various different cultures from which they originated.

If you choose the option that eleven exists in reality, you have to follow that since the eyeballs are receiving only material data, there must be a soul that perceives the immaterial.

Or simply a brain which can figure out that one can count things and that things dont allway appear as singular things. And that I may live in a sociaty which found it to be benefitial to count things.

Since you are a radical empiricist, you're not going to choose the later option. Instead, you choose the option where we have made up the concept. The problem with this is origin. If we go back in time to just when people were making language, the guy had to have seen the "eleven" deer and recognize the difference between those and other herd of deer (say, of 15). He recognized the difference of quantity before coming up with a word to describe various types of quantity. We can continue this as questions arise.

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Even animals nderstand quantity and differences, they simply lack the mechanisms required to actualy count.

My cat knew that it had 4 kittens when it gave birth to those 3 years ago and searched for the missing one if one ran away, yet it lacked the capabilities to loook at me and say

"hey I lost a kitten, cause I have four kids and only 3 are in here"

Guess why? Because it doesnt have a brain that allows it to understand concepts like numbers.

But before I'm done, I have one more example. Lets say that there is a universe where all that exists is a single oxygen atom.

If there is something I really hate, then it is people who think they can start a debate with "Let`s say" and then give the potential or even outright wrong example of something completly ridicilous.

"Let`s pretend unichorns fuck monkeys!" or whatever the fuck.

There is no universe where the only thing that exists is one single oxygen atom unless you can show it or bring up explainations to why you believe that it exists.

How many electrons are in its outer shell? Does it matter how many electrons are in is outer shell to be oxygen?

6

Is oxygen a part of reality?

Ask your lungs

If you answered 6, yes, yes, you should join the club of awesomeopossumjesusland. You get a t-shirt. If you got 8, yes, yes, go repeat the sixth grade and come back to us with a score of 85 or higher. Your t-shirt is waiting.

And now is the part where you tear my head off and make my argument seem like complete garbage. Feel free to insult my mother and her mother as you go (except Rhythm because I've already ignored that kiddo).

What makes you think that there is something that any civilisation on this planet would call an argument in this phrase:

If you answered 6, yes, yes, you should join the club of awesomeopossumjesusland. You get a t-shirt. If you got 8, yes, yes, go repeat the sixth grade and come back to us with a score of 85 or higher. Your t-shirt is waiting.