Sometimes I use "memory" very broadly.
Memorization is completely physical. If I give some 4th graders a times tables quiz, the test itself has nothing to do with the soul (although prior to the quiz, the soul is instrumental). The kid will see the Arabic numerals on the page, and brain will then think on what does "5x6" mean, then it will relate it back to the memorization that happened earlier. To understand the meaning of "5" and "6" and "30" requires a soul.
Learning to count: The only animals that count without relating the numbers to material things are people. Counting, in and of itself, can use solely memory, both a rational soul and the brain, or use brain and animal soul simultaneously. A computer program can repeat a given list, and this would be the brain only. In facilitating a language (as apposed to simple communication), the rational soul is assigning noises (physical) to the numbers. The rational soul is no longer necessary when we already know the language. Finally, the language is not necessary to know that 3 is less than 7. Animals still know this. Also, animals do not think about 3 and 7 apart from physical objects, but they still know them nevertheless.
Mathematics: In learning/developing you get both brain and rational soul working. After you've already learned, its just memory. Algebra was a breeze for me, same with geometry. Pre-Cal was much more difficult, and I had no idea what the teacher was telling me. The "path" of logic wasn't clear to me so I couldn't solve the problems. Once I understood what the path was, I went to AP AB Cal and made a 96. In learning the formula and its workings, rational soul was active along with my brain. Once I figured it out, its all memory from there.
The brain is active. The brain is trying to figure out if the problem relates to anything you've seen before, what usually happens, etc.. If your name is Copernicus and you're looking at sheets of data on the planets, you're going to come up with different answers for "how" and the brain will be churning away and mental strain will ensue.
Makes the brain's churning easier to fatigue.
Part of the process? Absolutely. The only process? Metaphysically impossible.
I can close my eyes and think of my mother, but my brain is pulling that from memory. I can then imagine my mother giving me a hug, but that too is a memory. I can imagine Barack Obama giving me a hug, but now I'm combining memories of being hugged and what Obama looks like on T.V. The imagination is a whole bunch of stuff from our memory banks being thrown together. If dreaming were just the soul, there wouldn't be any of that. The soul is not a warehouse for knowledge, but it is a factory that spits knowledge out right as it's done with it.
MysticKnight Wrote:I seem to be confused about what you said about kids memorizing numbers. Does a brain play a part in memorizing numbers?
Memorization is completely physical. If I give some 4th graders a times tables quiz, the test itself has nothing to do with the soul (although prior to the quiz, the soul is instrumental). The kid will see the Arabic numerals on the page, and brain will then think on what does "5x6" mean, then it will relate it back to the memorization that happened earlier. To understand the meaning of "5" and "6" and "30" requires a soul.
MysticKnight Wrote:In learning to count aside from seeing material things? In learning mathematics aside from seeing material things?
Learning to count: The only animals that count without relating the numbers to material things are people. Counting, in and of itself, can use solely memory, both a rational soul and the brain, or use brain and animal soul simultaneously. A computer program can repeat a given list, and this would be the brain only. In facilitating a language (as apposed to simple communication), the rational soul is assigning noises (physical) to the numbers. The rational soul is no longer necessary when we already know the language. Finally, the language is not necessary to know that 3 is less than 7. Animals still know this. Also, animals do not think about 3 and 7 apart from physical objects, but they still know them nevertheless.
Mathematics: In learning/developing you get both brain and rational soul working. After you've already learned, its just memory. Algebra was a breeze for me, same with geometry. Pre-Cal was much more difficult, and I had no idea what the teacher was telling me. The "path" of logic wasn't clear to me so I couldn't solve the problems. Once I understood what the path was, I went to AP AB Cal and made a 96. In learning the formula and its workings, rational soul was active along with my brain. Once I figured it out, its all memory from there.
MysticKnight Wrote:It seems to me my brain begins to hurt when I get stomped on a math problem.
The brain is active. The brain is trying to figure out if the problem relates to anything you've seen before, what usually happens, etc.. If your name is Copernicus and you're looking at sheets of data on the planets, you're going to come up with different answers for "how" and the brain will be churning away and mental strain will ensue.
MysticKnight Wrote:Also when I use to fast, fasting made it harder for me to concentrate on mathematical equations.
Makes the brain's churning easier to fatigue.
MysticKnight Wrote:It kind of seems to the brain is part of the process with numbers- soul or no soul.
Part of the process? Absolutely. The only process? Metaphysically impossible.
MysticKnight Wrote:Again, if a dream can exist in our minds, and not be a proof of soul, but we aren't seeing anything real in a dream, why can't it be the case of numbers?
The same is true of "logic".
I can close my eyes and think of my mother, but my brain is pulling that from memory. I can then imagine my mother giving me a hug, but that too is a memory. I can imagine Barack Obama giving me a hug, but now I'm combining memories of being hugged and what Obama looks like on T.V. The imagination is a whole bunch of stuff from our memory banks being thrown together. If dreaming were just the soul, there wouldn't be any of that. The soul is not a warehouse for knowledge, but it is a factory that spits knowledge out right as it's done with it.
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