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For the logic impaired...
RE: For the logic impaired...
Quote:I support state funded measures to care for children.

So if a girl whose insurance won't pay for the pill or an IUD and she gets pregnant: you're fine with paying food, housing, childcare, medical for her and her unwanted in the first place baby? That's kind.

Quote:I support contraception, but I don't think it is really effective. 99% effectiveness rate is not effective enough, if you have sex 100 times, it is very likely that you will have a child.

Are you saying you support limiting the amount of sex people can have?

Let me tell you a story. My sister needed effective birth control for her and her fiancee. She had been given an IUD after she had a baby. When it ran out, her insurance (Catholic) through her hospital job said they wouldn't pay for anything at all. She went to her doctor who said the total would be appx 1200$. So she had to go to the health clinic to get a new one, and gladly paid the 200$. Come to find out that those very health clinics are being shut down in our city.

The hormonal IUD is considered to be a long-acting reversible contraceptive, among the most effective forms of birth control. The first year failure rate for the hormonal IUD is .2% and the five year failure rate is .7%.[2] These rates are comparable to tubal sterilization, but the effects of the hormonal IUD are reversible.

She's guaranteed not to have a kid, everyone's happy. Every girl I know has one, and they're not getting pregnant, no matter how much sex they have. Know why? Because every day the progesterone is released into their bodies.

Of course, things like having it fall out without realizing it are RARE and I've never heard of it, but that shit happens and sometimes girls get pregnant I guess.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THIS CONTRACEPTIVE IS INEFFECTIVE.

Quote:I support sex education, but as a Christian, I believe that the sexual act has some sort of meaning outside of self gratification.

Sex is beautiful when it's between you and someone you love. Sex is also self gratifying, and means just that. Not everyone is going to believe in your values on the subject, so why legislate and advocate your views as the only path to take? At the very least come up with a solution that opposing viewpoints can actually work with.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - March 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 2, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Fruity - March 30, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Nine - March 30, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:37 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Minimalist - March 30, 2013 at 11:41 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Minimalist - April 1, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:57 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - March 31, 2013 at 4:46 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by downbeatplumb - March 31, 2013 at 5:50 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Zen Badger - March 31, 2013 at 5:59 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - March 31, 2013 at 6:41 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - March 31, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Angrboda - March 31, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - March 31, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - March 31, 2013 at 7:02 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - March 31, 2013 at 7:05 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 8:50 am
For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - March 31, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - March 31, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Nine - March 31, 2013 at 4:53 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Angrboda - March 31, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 5:07 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Angrboda - March 31, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 31, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - March 31, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by CapnAwesome - March 31, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - March 31, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - April 1, 2013 at 10:32 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 1, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - April 1, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - April 1, 2013 at 7:04 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Nine - April 1, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by MysticKnight - April 1, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tonus - April 1, 2013 at 6:38 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - April 1, 2013 at 10:35 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 1, 2013 at 10:42 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by justin - April 1, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by justin - April 1, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by justin - April 1, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - April 3, 2013 at 1:14 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tiberius - April 1, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 1, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by justin - April 1, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by justin - April 1, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tiberius - April 1, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 1, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 2:44 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - April 2, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2013 at 1:56 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - April 2, 2013 at 2:51 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - April 2, 2013 at 10:26 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 2:56 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - April 2, 2013 at 7:11 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by pocaracas - April 2, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - April 2, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - April 2, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tonus - April 2, 2013 at 8:17 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 2, 2013 at 8:25 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:11 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 8:17 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tiberius - April 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 3, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 3, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - April 3, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tiberius - April 3, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 3, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 3, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 3, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 3, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 3:26 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 8:35 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Whateverist - April 4, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - April 4, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by pocaracas - April 4, 2013 at 9:06 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 4, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 4, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Cato - April 4, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 4, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 4, 2013 at 9:49 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 4, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - April 4, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 4, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 4, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 4, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 5, 2013 at 12:18 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 4, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 4, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 5, 2013 at 4:04 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 5, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 5, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 5, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2013 at 2:33 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 5, 2013 at 7:34 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 5, 2013 at 8:11 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 5, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Brayton.l - April 5, 2013 at 8:25 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 6, 2013 at 3:05 am

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