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For the logic impaired...
RE: For the logic impaired...
(April 2, 2013 at 8:28 pm)Joel Wrote: Yeah, and I don't support those cases.

…so far we agree.

Quote: I'm not saying that it should be done because of the mother's life: I'm saying that because it affects her life; it's her choice to make.

If you truly believe abortion is killing a living human being then I don’t see how you can also justify the above statement. How is it any different than someone in the 19th Century saying, “I personally do not support slavery, but since it affects the well-being of the slave owner I support their right to own slaves” ?



Quote: Again, I say, I don't support contraceptive abortions... I don't really support abortion at all - I don't like it. But it's not my choice to make and I can see that it's not fair - or morally right - to force a woman to have a child that she did not want (and had no control over - rape), endangers her life, or will birth a child with an extremely poor quality of life.

According to whom is it morally wrong? I do not believe there is a moral right for a mother to kill any child she decides she doesn’t want. Additionally, how do you even measure quality of life? That seems to assume we have knowledge of future events that we simply cannot possess; interesting discussion though Joel.

(April 3, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Joel Wrote: If a woman is raped and does not want the child - she shouldn't be forced to keep it... Rather than she had consensual sex and got pregnant - knowing that she may get pregnant.
If her potential child is tested and found that it may be born with severe defects/disease, then she should have the choice.


I’d be interested in hearing sometime where your notion of rights and morality are coming from; but I am curious…would you support making abortion illegal unless it is permitted by a legal court or legal proceeding because a rape has occurred?
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For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - March 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 2, 2013 at 8:04 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:22 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:32 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Minimalist - March 30, 2013 at 11:41 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Minimalist - April 1, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:57 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - March 31, 2013 at 4:46 am
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - March 31, 2013 at 7:05 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 8:50 am
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 31, 2013 at 5:28 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 5:46 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 6:49 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:37 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:51 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:57 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 2, 2013 at 8:25 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:11 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:28 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 3, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 3, 2013 at 7:35 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 8:04 am
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - April 4, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 7:01 pm
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