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For the logic impaired...
RE: For the logic impaired...
Quote:If you truly believe abortion is killing a living human being then I don’t see how you can also justify the above statement. How is it any different than someone in the 19th Century saying, “I personally do not support slavery, but since it affects the well-being of the slave owner I support their right to own slaves” ?
I don't believe abortion is killing a human being. I believe it is stopping a potential life. I believe it should be done within a certain timeframe, also. Note that this may only be to make me feel more comfortable with abortion because most people will say that it remains just a fetus until the moment of birth: that's not how I see it.

Also, I see it differently to slavery because a slave is an individual person whilst a fetus is an in-development life. It doesn't have feelings, a mind (to my knowledge) or a sensory system.

Quote:According to whom is it morally wrong? I do not believe there is a moral right for a mother to kill any child she decides she doesn’t want. Additionally, how do you even measure quality of life? That seems to assume we have knowledge of future events that we simply cannot possess; interesting discussion though Joel.
According to me, it's morally wrong... As in, I view that as an immoral act. I believe that morality is subjective and that's my view.
I don't believe it's moral for a mother to kill any child she doesn't want, either, that's why I specified in brackets that it's a child forced on her - with an example of rape. Nor would it be fair on the child, if it were to be born, to have no loving family.
Quality of life is a difficult topic, but a child with a paralysing terminal illness will live a life of lesser quality to that of a child with no disease.

Quote:I’d be interested in hearing sometime where your notion of rights and morality are coming from; but I am curious…would you support making abortion illegal unless it is permitted by a legal court or legal proceeding because a rape has occurred?
I think that's a step in the right direction for countries in which abortion is already illegal.
I think if abortion were to be legal; it should be 'regulated' in a sense. Legalise the choice; not the act. That is to say that there should be a choice and from there it should be looked into; I'm not completely sure how, though. Not just hand out abortions to everyone who asks for one.
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - March 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 30, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 2, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Fruity - March 30, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Nine - March 30, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:37 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Minimalist - March 30, 2013 at 11:41 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Minimalist - April 1, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - March 30, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 30, 2013 at 11:57 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 30, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - March 31, 2013 at 4:46 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by downbeatplumb - March 31, 2013 at 5:50 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Zen Badger - March 31, 2013 at 5:59 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - March 31, 2013 at 6:41 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - March 31, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Angrboda - March 31, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - March 31, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - March 31, 2013 at 7:02 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - March 31, 2013 at 7:05 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 8:50 am
For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - March 31, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - March 31, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Nine - March 31, 2013 at 4:53 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 5:07 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Angrboda - March 31, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - March 31, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - March 31, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 1, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - March 31, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - March 31, 2013 at 5:51 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - March 31, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - March 31, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - April 1, 2013 at 10:32 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 1, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - April 1, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by SHIN KAIRI - April 1, 2013 at 7:04 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Nine - April 1, 2013 at 7:08 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tonus - April 1, 2013 at 6:38 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 1, 2013 at 10:42 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by justin - April 1, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2013 at 3:15 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by justin - April 1, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - April 3, 2013 at 1:14 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tiberius - April 1, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 1, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by justin - April 1, 2013 at 6:46 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 2:44 am
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - April 2, 2013 at 9:27 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Autumnlicious - April 2, 2013 at 2:51 am
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 2, 2013 at 2:56 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by KichigaiNeko - April 2, 2013 at 7:11 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by pocaracas - April 2, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - April 2, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by jstrodel - April 2, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - April 2, 2013 at 7:00 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 7:19 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tonus - April 2, 2013 at 8:17 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 2, 2013 at 8:25 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:11 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 8:17 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by festive1 - April 2, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 2, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tiberius - April 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 2, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 2, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 3, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 3, 2013 at 1:22 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Tiberius - April 3, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 3, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 3, 2013 at 6:39 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 3, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 3, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 3:26 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Joel - April 4, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2013 at 8:35 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Whateverist - April 4, 2013 at 8:46 am
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Kayenneh - April 4, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by pocaracas - April 4, 2013 at 9:06 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 4, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Statler Waldorf - April 4, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Silver - April 4, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Cato - April 4, 2013 at 7:54 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 4, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 4, 2013 at 9:49 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 4, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Violet - April 4, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 7:01 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 4, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 4, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 4, 2013 at 11:28 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 4, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 4, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2013 at 11:40 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 5, 2013 at 4:04 am
RE: For the logic impaired... - by catfish - April 5, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 5, 2013 at 7:18 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2013 at 2:33 am
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 5, 2013 at 8:11 pm
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RE: For the logic impaired... - by Brayton.l - April 5, 2013 at 8:25 pm
RE: For the logic impaired... - by Mystical - April 6, 2013 at 3:05 am

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