Golden Ratio In Nature, Quran And Position Of The Kaba

[ciko83]

For God's sake, why don't you listen.
I already said that the book was well thought out. That means absolutely nothing. It does not show that it's divinely anything.
The videos you post don't tell us anything other than somebody putting meaning to things that could be put to anything!

Prove to me that men couldn't do this. I don't believe they couldn't have done it.

If you want them to prove something, you have to show that. You also have to [u]show why all other claims of divinely inspired books are false. You have hundreds to go, so you better start now[/u].

lets begin with bible, do you know that bible itself say about itself that it is false

look here

◄ Jeremiah 8:8 ►
"'How can you say, "We are wise because we have the word of the LORD," when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies?

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Hmm...I don't know if I trust the video person, because when we checked those on shiachat a while ago, they ended up not being true. Perhaps we didn't do the root thing properly.

The thing is, the Prophet Mohammad didn't write the whole Quran together in the same time. Different verses or chapters were revealed in different occasions and they deal with different circumstances of that time.

To say he thought about how much each word would appear at the end of it, is far fetch.

At the same time, I'm quite aware of contradictions and problems in Quran.

This leaves me to the conclusion, perhaps the history of Islam has been fabricated and that Mohammad is not the original author of the current Quran.

Humans could've done so, if they thought about it through, and wanted it to be "signs of the in the end era" of their marvelous work to be true.

Perhaps some reality talented poets got together and made it up. This would suggest perhaps Mohammad didn't exist.

But there is problems in that there existed well recorded history of uprising etc, by his descendants.

Or perhaps he did exist, but the Quran was totally re-written. I tend to favour this idea, except, then, why all the excuses of not bringing miracles?

This all so mind boggling....if the video is true...

because when we checked those on shiachat a while ago, they ended up not being true. Perhaps we didn't do the root thing properly

shia are well known liars, so dont expect much from them, they are not even muslims, Shiism is totally different religion.

I'm quite aware of contradictions and problems in Quran.

like what?

This all so mind boggling....if the video is true...

of course it is true, and you can test it also with your own hands. i have tested with my own hands to confirm those nummerical miracles.