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That doesn't sound like an argument to me. Tell me the magical means by which we know quantity. Tell me how one can have any concept of quantity, or of anything for that matter, without using material analogues to establish it?

Souls didn't need to be metaphysical when humanity's understanding of the physical was as pitiful as it was until very recently, just as God didn't need to be a supernatural being.

First, your assertion that it's magic is basically functioning as a strawman, especially since I have never used the word, "magic" in my discussion. Quit it.

Second, what you quoted isn't supposed to be an argument. You keep doing this game, even the post I am responding to is playing this game, and I'd like you to comment on the argument rather than just strawman it at every turn, regardless. Quit it.

Third, either tell me why I am wrong or tell me a more coherent solution. You didn't answer the question i gave you. You redirected with a strawman'd question that I have been answering questions/objections for the past 11 pages. Quit it.

Fourth, the pot shot at God didn't even have to do with the subject. I think you just like to hate. Quit it.

Fifth, while the understanding of the ancient philosophers of the physical was abysmal, that has nothing to do with a coherent metaphysics. Your attack is ad homenim. Quit it.

Sixth, the analogies used are for understanding, not for proving. People understand better with the analogies. Quit it.

Finally, I have given the entire argument with no analogies (Post #74) and you responded that they were all assumptions and presuppositions(post #76). When I requested your issues because you were playing this same game of "you're wrong because I say so" (post #78), you gave me a list (Post #79). When I explained (post #85) how quantities were not material (NO ANALOGIES!), you flip flopped and changed your stance to say that quantities were just concepts in the mind (post #86). I both called you out and pretended that you had just had an epiphany (Post #89) and answered your new objection. Then you waited 18 posts later, nearly 2 full pages and 5 full days to respond again, but only on a recent comment to discredit an example given by taking it too far (post #107). Now you claim I have to prove my claim without analogies, and the truth is, I already have. You even responded. Quit it.