(April 14, 2013 at 8:54 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:(April 13, 2013 at 4:10 pm)StatCrux Wrote: The "new atheist" thing was very much like watching the hippie movement of the sixties, lot's of nonsense talked by a few individual characters followed and admired by credulous college kids and fringe groups, no substantive arguments or real engagement with credible opposition to the movement.
Who do you count as credible opposition? During his last years with cancer Hitchens literally debated anyone in any venue. Whether or not you agree with the New Atheists or not, it's pretty hard to say they haven't engaged their opposition.
He's going to come up with issues on the "credible" part of that equation, given creationism's propensity to attract frauds with phoney degrees or no credentials whatsoever. That, and theology is possibly the biggest waste of time qualification there is. He may produce credible, for a given value of credible that every big name atheist has surpassed, but, well...
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