(April 14, 2013 at 11:15 am)whateverist Wrote: Such a level headed guy for someone who broke out of a cult.Hah, I appreciate it. There are a number of reasons that the indoctrination didn't "take" over the long term. One reason, I think, is that the JWs do prompt the membership to "test all things" with the Bible. They don't really mean that; they expect you to come to the same conclusions that they do, and you risk expulsion if you don't. But hey, if you ask people to sincerely check your math, some of them are going to prefer expulsion when they realize that it doesn't add up.
whateverist Wrote:Can you tell me something about the JW's? I heard that when a group of them go around door to door with that little magazine thingy some of them are checking out your house for after the rapture. Is that true? I mean, what I heard is that JWs believe the rapture will suck out all the bad eggs leaving only the chosen here on earth. So heaven comes to us?Jehovah's Witnesses believe that god's original plan for mankind was that we would fill the Earth and live forever upon it, and he has not abandoned that plan. He made arrangements for 144,000 faithful to be called to heaven as angels, but everyone else will live forever on Earth after god forcibly wipes all wickedness from it and restores it to its intended status as Paradise.
(And by wickedness, they pretty much mean anyone who isn't a JW. You can be a "good person" with all that it entails, but if you aren't doing it the JW way, you die with the rest of the rabble.)
As for scouting out houses, I've heard of it happening but never saw it first hand. Which isn't surprising, I grew up in poor and shitty areas of the Bronx, and most of the abodes were not the sort of place you'd want to move into once the planet had been god-ified. So I don't know if it was a serious thing or if it was just a way to keep from dozing off while being turned down by every person you met as you went from one home to the next.
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