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Meliorism - The rise of neo-atheism and the fall of reason
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RE: Meliorism - The rise of neo-atheism and the fall of reason
(April 16, 2013 at 6:13 pm)ManMachine Wrote: Scientifically speaking, it is ridiculous to ask what the final cause (the purpose, end, aim, or goal) of the human species is because it doesn't have one. We are a current in the genetic tide and one day we will be washed away like all the extinct species that have gone before us.

When we talk about human progress we invoke a final cause, something to measure human progress against. This is utterly groundless. The belief that humans can progress is built on religious and in particurlar the Judao/Christian notion that we are somehow not like other animals. This is what I mean when I talk about anthropocentrism, our species ego, and is just not supported by empirical evidence.
I think I understand your argument a lot better now.

One can only make progress if there is a goal in the first place. I would not say that there is an objective goal (unless you count survival), but I think a subjective goal that progress has been measured against (most simply) is increasing standard of living.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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RE: Meliorism - The rise of neo-atheism and the fall of reason - by Darkstar - April 16, 2013 at 9:41 pm

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