Attributes, Probability and the God Index

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This perception is that of lower beings, who are the playthings of the higher beings, who probably don't know many of the even higher beings.

Just think: if logic itself is a construct... and only applicable here... why can't there be an infinite number of beyond maximal-power beings?

Ah, the ontological argument.. sort of.

The fallacy with that is that a concept in our head is different to an object in the real world. I can think of a stapler, but that concept in my head isn't an actual stapler (because that would hurt!). Therefore these all-powerful beings that we can imagine to exist are just concepts and in no way does that entail they actually exist.

No... it's the argument that logic itself is invalid. An omnipotent being doesn't necessarily have to be bound by logic.... but you have a bunch of nonsense there.

The pain itself could easily be illusory. If you are capable of using your mind to create pleasure in yourself... you are also capable of using your mind to hurt you. Even your perception of pain and pleasure *itself* is all in your head. Everything might as well 'be just a concept'... but I would ask you this: how does is conceptual existence not 'actual' existence? Sounds like a NTS to me... maybe that'll talk to you better than cluing you in, you logic-impaired zealot.

A concept in your head is all that objects in 'the real world' are. Observe a worm... a pitiful, nonsapient being: how would they perceive the very real television in front of them? Go further, and say it was reduced in size such as to be proportional to humankind's televisions... the experience is totally different. But both experiences are real.

Observe the pitiful human, a sapient being... but it has neither been to space, nor does it appear to have the capacity to escape logic's rule. Existence is. Organization of existence into separate 'things' is the barest of observations that you do not observe the whole.

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Would this not also apply to people? I mean, if I rated all of my attributes, I would have some score but if there are an infinite possibilities my chance of existing approaches 0.

Yet, here I am.

Then clearly, you're not a 0 in every category.

Congratulations on existing as a non-nothing substance!

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Wait...was this argument meant to expose the flaws in the fine tuning "too unlikely to happen" argument?

Too unlikely to happen is flawed because regardless of likelihood: it can still happen.

Too unlikely to happen to be practical on the other hand... well, that's a measured bet