Attributes, Probability and the God Index

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Did you use logic to propose logic isn't bound to the being?

I could, if you want me to. But ultimately, if you're relying on a circular logic to support anything, you're nuts. It's why I try my damnedest to avoid logic wherever it's found.

What I meant by "it would be painful" is that if the concept of a stapler in my mind was literally a stapler, then I would be dead, as a stapler inside my brain wouldn't work very well for me. All I'm saying is that a concept and an object representing said concept are two different things.

Are they different things? Are you dreaming again, Susan? Looks like a nightmare... OHIMSOSORRY-I didn't realize that was just you in the mirror TT__TT

What's NTS?
Concepts are abstract things. Do you have evidence to prove they exist in reality? They only exist inside the mind.

No True Scotsman would ask what an NTS was!

I can not only provide proof that everything exists, I can also prove that all things exist, and I can even go ahead and prove that nothing exists too... now that's something. What's better, I can do it all with just logic. Abstract things ain't things and don't exist, I'm totally with you broski. I mean, the mind couldn't possibly be a part of reality at all... THAT WOULD BE SENSELESS. Madness, even. Time for pointless music to go with your nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682pneYoP0c

I don't see how you can conclude that. The bus I take to uni isn't a concept. It's a solid object I can interact with.

And I'll bet you think that, don't you? And your evidence that the bus is not all in your head is... where? Solipsists got it right, doesn't stop them from being faithless whores. Only thing that you can demonstrate exists is *YOU*, and you can't even know 'WHAT THE QUALITIES OF YOUR EXISTENCE ARE' without taking your observations upon faith. All that must be necessarily true about objective existence... is that 'you' are part of it. You might be all of it, or some of it... but one thing is for sure: you aren't none of it.

Are you the type of person that believes NASA never went to the moon?

Sorry, I'm really not following what your argument is...

Yeah, you pulled that stunt some 50 years ago... where is your goddamn second planet? YOUR SECOND SYSTEM. Exploration is cool and all... but it means jack-shit if you aren't doing anything with it.

Might as well save the money you spent on the scouts and just tech so far you never have to leave your home planet. It just hits me right here to watch another race failing... sooner or later, you're going to erupt in a war so bad it takes your planet from an ideal garden world to an arid desert planet. My people don't care as much as other races do... but it's still a shame to annihilate all of those pretty vistas.

I don't think I'm following.. worms don't have eyes.. so they can't experience tv like we can. So what?

Wait... Earth-worms don't have eyes?! JUST HOW FREAKING PRIMITIVE IS YOUR PLANET?!



Anyway, you just proved my point: they can't experience tv like we can. I'll let you think on it