You know what, I happily concede! It's 1 in the morning and I can't think of any way to distinguish an object outside my mind to be exactly that. The conclusion is obviously that I can't reason very well at 1 in the morning :p
On the belief that faith is needed for logic to "work", how's this(?):
1) We need faith that logic works
2) Premise 1 is a logical conclusion [given our discussion]
3) If 2 is true, then logic comes before faith
C) therefore, we don't need faith that logic works
On the belief that faith is needed for logic to "work", how's this(?):
1) We need faith that logic works
2) Premise 1 is a logical conclusion [given our discussion]
3) If 2 is true, then logic comes before faith
C) therefore, we don't need faith that logic works
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle