If Not Hell then what?

[Drich]

The universe doesn't care what we really want.

Reality is not obliged to conform to our desires.

Neither does God. I was just giving you all an oppertunity to express what you thought to be a viable option to Hell rather than just complain about how unfair God is.

Sure, I would love to be immortal, to be forever young if you could somehow give me the chance. I can only imagine all the wonders I would witness. Hopefully, I would see humanity go to the stars and build a truly rational civilization. I wonder if atheists who say otherwise aren't expressing disdain for sour grapes.

I honestly think 'going to the stars' is what we are meant to do for eternity.

Do I spend a lot of time wishing for that or thinking of that possibility? No. The universe isn't going to change just because I want it to. I will grow old and die and that can't be changed.

The universe does not change, you are right there. However what I can not phathom is how persumptious the idea is that 'we' as a people believe we have it all figured out only after a few hundred years of searching. Or at least figured out enough so you can claim that your version of reality is the only one.

When I do die, what will happen will happen. I'm prepared for the very distinct possibility that this is the only life I'll know, that God gives us one shot at the brass ring and then it's fade-to-black-roll-the-credits.

If there is a God then why would you assume you only get one shot? Why would God operate this way after going though all of the trouble of creation without giving any information as to the nature of the 'brass ring' or that we only have one shot at it?

I might like to at least get an epilogue but, once again, the universe doesn't give a crap what I want so no use even discussing it.

Replace the word universe with God, and ask yourself the same question. If God does not give a crap about what y

So why do you even ask?

Again because most of you complain without any point or end goal. If you truly believed that this God had no power I believe there would not be a discussion. I that is why I believe that there is enough doubt in your (generally speaking) mind to want to argue the fairness of Hell.

because, if God can be found 'unjust' or 'immoral' then one is morally obligated NOT to follow Him, thus giving you the appearance of moral justification/Judgement day defense strageity. Which makes me wonder if God's 'a' plan is Hell for those who do not want to be with Him, then what would be the pop morallity version of the 'a' plan.

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If you really want proof then just A/S/K.

I asked you. As usual, you have oogatz.

I could provide you with proof, but it would only be a one way ticket.. That is why I refered you to A/S/K as luke 11 point out.

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If not Hell then what?

According to the majority of god fearing fools ... Hell is full of engineers and scientists and artisans of all talents. Hell? With such a population I would expect it to be and air-conditioned, landscaped and financially viable place by now. Heaven? full of the worthless portions of humanity to scared to say boo.

I hate to be the refrigeration engineer to burst your bubble but @ or around 125*F the refrigeration process stops for most refrigerants. http://www.rses.org/assets/r410a/620-113.pdf

Not to mention Hell is a void, so unless those people can call into existance all that is needed, then they will be SOL.