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Evidence Verses Faith
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Evidence Verses Faith
This isn't a post directed personally at EVF or FVE, but I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

I started to make this post several different times and it hasn't been right. I have been accused of being to wordy, which is funny to me, so I will just come out and say what I want to say.

I am a retired homocide detective. Not rich or educated by any means, but I love to learn and talk about the Bible. More so with atheists because they don't have as much religious influence. Actually they have it but it is sort of second hand. Their limited understanding comes from the pagan / Xian myths.

I want to talk about the importance of faith and evidence. One of the last cases I worked on was that of a man who was shot in his own apartment. The gun was dropped beside his body. I walked into the place and saw only that much and knew that he had been shot by a woman most likely; possibly a child, elderly person or imigrant but most likely a young woman. The rookies couldn't understand how I could have thought that and were amazed when two days later a young woman turned herself in for shooting the man.

How did I know? Faith or evidence? I had faith in my experiences on the job and thus all the evidence I needed. When a woman shoots a man out of passion she will most often drop the gun as if to separate herself from what she realizes she has just done. She doesn't think to hide the weapon and she doesn't care about the gun anymore.

Inexperienced killers having been backed into some corner might do the same but since this was a young man in his own apartment it was most likely a woman. I could have been wrong but I wasn't.

Another case I worked on years ago a man was witnessed in a park standing over a man shot to death holding the murder weapon in his hand. I didn't think he had done it even though most would have taken the scene as evidence of his guilt. It turned out he didn't do it.

Faith and evidence can both be wrong. Faulty.

I have faith in the Bible because it proves itself to me. I have gotten to know it well and it never fails me. Its evidence speaks to me. Not so with you. Primarily because you believe in the myth of Christendom and observe its bloody history.

The soul, for example. I could write a big post on what the soul actually means from the Bible and you wouldn't be at all interested other than to say that it doesn't fit with what most Xians teach. That is because they teach a pagan influenced version of the soul.

What does it matter to an atheist? Well - for one thing you would be dismissing the Bible through someone elses biased interpretation without investigating what the Bible itself says, which by the way, you shouldn't do with my interpretation either, but also because when a Xian says to you that your soul is going to be tormented in hell forever it would be nice, I would think, to point out to a Xian that that isn't true.

It is important to know what you are dealing with if you are going to deal with it.
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Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 24, 2008 at 12:21 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Tiberius - November 24, 2008 at 1:39 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 24, 2008 at 2:07 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - November 24, 2008 at 2:32 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 24, 2008 at 10:30 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Meatball - November 24, 2008 at 7:49 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Tiberius - November 24, 2008 at 7:59 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - November 25, 2008 at 4:38 am
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 25, 2008 at 12:13 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - November 25, 2008 at 12:28 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 25, 2008 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - November 25, 2008 at 12:57 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 26, 2008 at 12:32 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Edwardo Piet - November 25, 2008 at 10:56 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 26, 2008 at 1:00 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Edwardo Piet - November 26, 2008 at 9:09 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 27, 2008 at 11:59 am
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Edwardo Piet - December 2, 2008 at 9:33 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - December 3, 2008 at 2:00 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Kyuuketsuki - November 26, 2008 at 5:58 am
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 26, 2008 at 3:34 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - November 26, 2008 at 12:54 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - November 26, 2008 at 1:15 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by infidel666 - November 26, 2008 at 10:18 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - November 27, 2008 at 11:21 am
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - November 27, 2008 at 11:25 am
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - November 27, 2008 at 8:24 am
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by CoxRox - December 3, 2008 at 8:09 am
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by lukec - December 3, 2008 at 4:40 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Daystar - December 3, 2008 at 4:56 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Edwardo Piet - December 3, 2008 at 5:16 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by lukec - December 3, 2008 at 5:03 pm
RE: Evidence Verses Faith - by Tiberius - December 3, 2008 at 5:03 pm

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