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Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs
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RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs
(April 22, 2013 at 10:21 am)whateverist Wrote: ...Just because mind/consciousness has only been reported by creatures with brains is no reason to jump to the conclusion that mind processes are nothing but brain chemistry.
That is exactly correct. If not just electro-chemical processes then what is the extra ingredient?

(April 22, 2013 at 10:21 am)whateverist Wrote: Clearly all that brain chemistry is giving rise to all the subjective states we know and love.
I do not share your clarity. To say "gives rise to" restricts you to bottom-up causation. The naturalist assumption is that the physical universe is causally closed. Thus naturalist explanations only allow bottom-up causation. If there is an extra ingredient for consciousness, then it has no place in any purely physical system.
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Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Neo-Scholastic - April 20, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Joel - April 20, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Whateverist - April 21, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Cato - April 21, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Whateverist - April 21, 2013 at 12:51 pm
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Whateverist - April 22, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Whateverist - April 22, 2013 at 10:21 am
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Neo-Scholastic - April 22, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Whateverist - April 22, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 23, 2013 at 10:23 am
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Angrboda - April 22, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: Rosenberg's Argument Against Beliefs - by Angrboda - April 23, 2013 at 2:15 pm

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