RE: Atheism, Theism, Science & Philosophy
April 22, 2013 at 2:42 pm
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2013 at 2:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Q: Do you think it is possible to have conscious "awareness" of something without conceptualising it from a rationalist perspective? I predict that your answer will be "no". By this, I mean the kind of state at which one arrives during transcendental meditation.
-I wouldn't know. I'd say that to me it would seem to be exceedingly difficult (but the difficulty becomes even more pronounced when we try to have a conversation about it, or assign any measure of veracity or accuracy to the "event" doesn't it). What kind of state does one arrive at during TM - I personally arrive at "sleep" in any attempt at meditation.
I could rephrase the second bit but I doubt it would help. I've been asking you to make a case for whatever supplements you prefer rather than constantly droning on about the limits of reason since the beginning. It's been fruitless. Let me try one of my favorite lines. Reason is not only limited in scope, but it's trash, absolute garbage-theres no sense in hammering in on it's limits because it's been removed from consideration, now tell me how I -ought- to be doing this, make that case.
-I wouldn't know. I'd say that to me it would seem to be exceedingly difficult (but the difficulty becomes even more pronounced when we try to have a conversation about it, or assign any measure of veracity or accuracy to the "event" doesn't it). What kind of state does one arrive at during TM - I personally arrive at "sleep" in any attempt at meditation.
I could rephrase the second bit but I doubt it would help. I've been asking you to make a case for whatever supplements you prefer rather than constantly droning on about the limits of reason since the beginning. It's been fruitless. Let me try one of my favorite lines. Reason is not only limited in scope, but it's trash, absolute garbage-theres no sense in hammering in on it's limits because it's been removed from consideration, now tell me how I -ought- to be doing this, make that case.
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