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Creation and G-d
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RE: Creation and G-d
(April 25, 2013 at 2:15 am)Consilius Wrote: If a good being creates free will for his creatures, he has to create a way for them to disobey him (sin). Man has no free will unless he has the option to turn against God (sin). Then, God used Jesus Christ to get us back on track, even though we still have the option to go against God (sin).

I think I see your point because light can't exist without darkness?

Still doesn't make sense that countless years went by and no 'bible,' was available before and after Jesus, until later years.

(April 25, 2013 at 1:52 pm)Drich Wrote:
(April 24, 2013 at 2:44 pm)TosinAsLeader Wrote: So I have always wondered this and would like some insight. G-d created the world in seven days (symbolically) and he may have used evolution to create. The thing that I can't seem to understand is the scenario with Adam and Eve. We all have heard the story of them eating the forbidden apple, that Satan tempted them to do, and then sin was 'born.'

Ok, so whether you believe in the word 'sin,' or not, lets just discuss this at a general meaning. So was sin really born? From what? G-d perhaps or some other cosmic fixation that goes back to G-d? Would that then make G-d imperfect since He created something that made Him have to send His Son to die for the "sins," that He created? This just doesn't make sense. Regardless if he is imperfect or not, I still choose to believe in G-d, who is more perfect than I can ever be. Your thoughts anyone?
Sin isn't a thing, there for there wasn't an actual birth of sin. Sin is anything the goes against the expressed will of God. In short sin is Choice. Choice was apart of the plan from the beginning as witnessed by the tree of knoweledge planed in the center of the garden. If God did not want us to have a choice then the only thing that was identified as a sin would not be placed with in our grasp.

So why do we have choice? (Not the greek philosphy of Free will, but choice.) to choose whether or not we want to spend eternity with him or not. Unfortunatly the mere act of be placed in a position to choose disqualifies us from being worth of an eternity with God. Enter Christ and the sacerfice He made. Now we can choose and have our choice count. So if we want to spend an eternity with God in Heaven the attonement Christ offers allows us to be washed clean of our 'sins.' Allowing us to be found worthy to be with God for eternity.

So God (again, it was a habit) didn't create sin? Yet, I thought he created everything Genesis 1:1)?
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Messages In This Thread
Creation and G-d - by TosinAsLeader - April 24, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Foxaèr - April 24, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by TosinAsLeader - April 24, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Foxaèr - April 24, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by My imaginary friend is GOD - April 24, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by The Grand Nudger - April 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by TosinAsLeader - April 25, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Esquilax - April 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by TosinAsLeader - April 25, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Esquilax - April 25, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Faith No More - April 24, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Godschild - April 24, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Strongbad - April 24, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Tonus - April 24, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by thesummerqueen - April 24, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Napoléon - April 24, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Strongbad - April 24, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by thesummerqueen - April 24, 2013 at 9:01 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by The Grand Nudger - April 24, 2013 at 9:07 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Strongbad - April 24, 2013 at 9:20 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Dragonetti - April 24, 2013 at 9:24 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Consilius - April 25, 2013 at 2:15 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2013 at 2:45 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Consilius - April 25, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Esquilax - April 25, 2013 at 5:41 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Consilius - April 25, 2013 at 8:20 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Tonus - April 25, 2013 at 9:18 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Zen Badger - April 25, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Consilius - April 25, 2013 at 8:16 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Strongbad - April 25, 2013 at 6:29 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by TosinAsLeader - April 25, 2013 at 2:13 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Drich - April 25, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Foxaèr - April 25, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by justin - April 25, 2013 at 6:03 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 6:13 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by The Grand Nudger - April 25, 2013 at 8:17 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by The Grand Nudger - April 25, 2013 at 8:22 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 8:23 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 25, 2013 at 8:23 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 8:25 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by pocaracas - April 25, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: Creation and G-d - by Drich - April 25, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Jackalope - April 25, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by TosinAsLeader - April 25, 2013 at 3:27 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by Strongbad - April 25, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by ronedee - April 25, 2013 at 2:29 pm
Re: Creation and G-d - by NoraBrimstone - April 25, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Creation and G-d - by thesummerqueen - April 25, 2013 at 6:41 pm

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