(April 25, 2013 at 2:13 pm)TosinAsLeader Wrote:(April 25, 2013 at 2:15 am)Consilius Wrote: If a good being creates free will for his creatures, he has to create a way for them to disobey him (sin). Man has no free will unless he has the option to turn against God (sin). Then, God used Jesus Christ to get us back on track, even though we still have the option to go against God (sin).
I think I see your point because light can't exist without darkness?
Still doesn't make sense that countless years went by and no 'bible,' was available before and after Jesus, until later years.
(April 25, 2013 at 1:52 pm)Drich Wrote: Sin isn't a thing, there for there wasn't an actual birth of sin. Sin is anything the goes against the expressed will of God. In short sin is Choice. Choice was apart of the plan from the beginning as witnessed by the tree of knoweledge planed in the center of the garden. If God did not want us to have a choice then the only thing that was identified as a sin would not be placed with in our grasp.
So why do we have choice? (Not the greek philosphy of Free will, but choice.) to choose whether or not we want to spend eternity with him or not. Unfortunatly the mere act of be placed in a position to choose disqualifies us from being worth of an eternity with God. Enter Christ and the sacerfice He made. Now we can choose and have our choice count. So if we want to spend an eternity with God in Heaven the attonement Christ offers allows us to be washed clean of our 'sins.' Allowing us to be found worthy to be with God for eternity.
So God (again, it was a habit) didn't create sin? Yet, I thought he created everything Genesis 1:1)?
Sin is not a thing and can not be created. The word sin identifies a state of mind or action. One God can not be apart of By defination because it would cease being against the will of God.
Sin at it's core is the ablity to be outside of God's expressed will. Something God allows for.
