RE: If Not Hell then what?
April 25, 2013 at 2:58 pm
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2013 at 2:59 pm by Drich.)
(April 25, 2013 at 2:34 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So what actually happens in this idea of hell you've gotAs per my experience and (to a lessor extent) what the bible actually says we are consumed by the hell fire/darkness. Meaning (personally speaking) the loss of our status as a member of creation coupled with the loss of the Love and honor we could have had with God, causes a mental break when the weight of an eternity it is paired with the mental anguish that is being experienced from being ripped from creation. (How long this will take I believe will be determined on How Long God feels you should suffer for your sins)
It is not pleasent, for me I was on my way out before I completely passed through the gates of Hell. Granted I did have a sense that some part of me would remain, but what makes me, me. I ablity to think and reason was consumed and burnt up by Hell fire (for the lack of a more accurate term, as Hell fire was not actual fire, but it did envoke the same type of emotional response, as being consumed or burned up by fire)
Quote:and, more importantly, how are we to differentiate this binding truth of reality you've got there from every other claim about hell that is, accordingly, merely opinion?You read your bible. Before this I though as Dante taught us to think of Hell, but after my experience (in order to dismiss it) I researched Hell in the bible pretty agressivly and found what I experienced to be scripturally supported.
The bible says Hell is Forever, and that the Devil and his buddies are to be punished there (not rule) forever. Everytime we are mentioned in relation to Hell we are consumed or burned up by the intense "fire" of Hell. Or it is refered to as our second death. (First death, resurrection to judgement, second death.)
(April 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm)justin Wrote:(April 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm)Drich Wrote: If Hell scares you then you do not understand the full nature of biblical Christianity. Hell is not the motivator people in the 'hell fire churches' make it out to be. Hell is merely the alternitive to spending an eternity with a God you want nothing to do with.
Hell is billed as a terriable place but that is from the persepective of those who want to be apart of creation. i have said that not everyone wants to be apart of creation, and the only way that can happen is in hell.
We from birth (or shorty there after depending on what you believe) are all slated to be seperated from God and creation for eternity. (want or deserve has absolutly nothing to do with that) The only way not to be seperated from God is to choose to be with God for eternity. That's it that's all. Either you do or your don't, if you do then follow what Christ says do. If you don't stay your current course.
Drich that isn't how the christian hell is defined. Seems to me you just ignore a lot in your book in order to fit what you want to hear.
The show me in my book oh great teacher.. (Book Chapter and verse please)
