RE: Spiritual enlightenment
November 30, 2009 at 4:36 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2009 at 4:43 pm by Purple Rabbit.)
(November 30, 2009 at 3:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:Well, I don't really know if organisation of a worldview is a necessary criterion. Bullshit may or may not be organised, don't you think?(November 30, 2009 at 3:02 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:(November 29, 2009 at 5:00 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: "Spiritual Enlightenment and Spiritual Awakening is the primary goal of almost all spiritual practices, traditions and religions and for any spiritual seeker. There are many names for this awakened state of Consciousness depending on what culture and tradition we belong to."Your quote seems a religious claim to me and quite contrary to what some allegedly enlightened people say. which is something more like: all religions and all organized worldviews for that matter are bullshit. Mind you, I am a total non-expert on the subject of spiritual enlightenment (as you probably will gladly acknowledge) but this sounds really intriguing to me.
What makes it bullshit if it's organised? Not that I disagree.. and don't feel an onus upon answering as I quite understand the sentiment.
(November 30, 2009 at 3:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:I agree. You can foget about any moral if you begin with self denial. I think it is odd to try to achieve such a state of indifference.(November 30, 2009 at 3:02 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:(November 29, 2009 at 5:00 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: "A higher state of consciousness in which the person seems to transcend his or her ego, and becomes aware of his/her divinity, and that he/she is one with God"This too is quite the opposite of what I have found. According to the experts a sharp distinction has to be made between finding ultimate truth and some permanent state of cosmic orgasm you seem to describe.
Hmm ..'transcend' has that suggestion doesn't it. Generally I've got this impression from 'seekers' but I don't think it has to be seen as so beneficial. I think it could be quite the opposite - for instance obtaining the state via some form of self denial.
(November 30, 2009 at 3:53 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Why are we discussing 'ultimates' anyway? It's not in the OP.Read carefully now, dear chap.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0