(April 29, 2013 at 1:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(April 29, 2013 at 12:31 pm)Tex Wrote: You already know the basic Christian system of an uncaused causer that cares for what it causes, a human person with both material and immaterial components, that very same uncaused causer humbling himself unto death in order to redeem us from our own frailty, and desiring us to embrace the grace offered so that we may live life how it was intended.All this talk of an uncaused causer reminds me of Muslim Scholar's proof of [his] god...
Do you also assume there's some sort of time which is not a part of the Universe's space-time, because at t=0, there is no before time, so no way to have some causation of time... which would require time before time.... arghhh... my head hurts just to think of it.
Time is not used in my proof. I actually criticized Muslim_Scholar for using Aristotle's proof wrong on page 9 or 10 or something.
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