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Theists- do you believe without evidence?
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RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence?
It's basically the correct way to use the cosmological argument in the only way that is impossible to misunderstand. When I talk about Existence itself, no one can say "well that's the big bang, fucktard". It's just off the wall enough that its hard to intentionally skew, but not crazy enough that I'm doing mental gymnastics. I do it like this:

The universe exists.
The universe does not exist under it's own power.
There is a foreign power to the universe that causes existence.

Ad infinitum unless this foreign power doesn't need a cause for being. Being/Existence itself doesn't need a cause for existence because, well, it is that very same.
The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.
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Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Dawud - April 27, 2013 at 4:31 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Soyouz - April 27, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by justin - April 27, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Cato - April 28, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Dawud - April 27, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tonus - April 27, 2013 at 6:42 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Dawud - April 27, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 27, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 27, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 27, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 27, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Dawud - April 27, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 27, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 27, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 27, 2013 at 9:20 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 28, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 28, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 28, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 28, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 28, 2013 at 5:27 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 28, 2013 at 10:32 pm
Re: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by frz - April 28, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 28, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 29, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 29, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 29, 2013 at 1:38 am
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by wwjs - April 29, 2013 at 2:09 am
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - April 29, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Theists- do you believe without evidence? - by Tex - May 1, 2013 at 10:56 am

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