The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good"

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The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good"

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RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good"

April 30, 2013 at 10:21 pm

(April 29, 2013 at 10:06 am)goodnews Wrote: ...Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him WHO WORKETH ALL THINGS AFTER THE COUNCEL OF HIS OWN WILL: This verse crushes the "free will" doctrine

That interpretation makes a mockery of all other scripture. Why would God give people commandments, admonish them to obey them, and threaten them with punishment for disobedience IF He did not also give people the ability to chose and follow those commandments. Everyone is predestined for heaven, i.e. you have been created to recieve God (the 'pre' part) so that you can reach your destination (destiny). Fate is inevitable, but destiny must be chosen.

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The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Venom7513 - April 28, 2013 at 9:52 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Darkstar - April 28, 2013 at 10:03 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Drich - April 28, 2013 at 11:26 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Venom7513 - April 29, 2013 at 10:07 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by FallentoReason - April 28, 2013 at 10:27 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Drich - April 28, 2013 at 11:29 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by FallentoReason - April 28, 2013 at 11:34 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Drich - April 28, 2013 at 11:45 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by FallentoReason - April 28, 2013 at 11:29 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Drich - April 28, 2013 at 11:37 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by FallentoReason - April 28, 2013 at 11:43 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by FallentoReason - April 28, 2013 at 11:54 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Minimalist - April 29, 2013 at 12:13 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Godschild - April 29, 2013 at 12:40 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Esquilax - April 29, 2013 at 4:50 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by goodnews - April 29, 2013 at 10:06 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Neo-Scholastic - April 30, 2013 at 10:21 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Ryantology - April 30, 2013 at 10:36 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by A_Nony_Mouse - May 1, 2013 at 12:27 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by purplepurpose - April 29, 2013 at 11:08 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Venom7513 - April 29, 2013 at 3:51 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by goodnews - April 29, 2013 at 12:12 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Godschild - April 30, 2013 at 11:07 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by ThomM - May 1, 2013 at 1:09 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Godschild - May 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by ThomM - May 3, 2013 at 7:54 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by MysticKnight - April 30, 2013 at 9:32 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Venom7513 - May 1, 2013 at 4:26 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by A_Nony_Mouse - April 30, 2013 at 10:07 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Drich - May 1, 2013 at 10:00 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by goodnews - May 1, 2013 at 3:25 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Godschild - May 1, 2013 at 3:43 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Neo-Scholastic - May 1, 2013 at 8:21 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by goodnews - May 1, 2013 at 9:34 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Godschild - May 2, 2013 at 12:43 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Ryantology - May 1, 2013 at 5:21 pm

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by goodnews - May 3, 2013 at 4:36 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by Godschild - May 3, 2013 at 5:39 am

RE: The Problem of Evil, Free Will, and the "Greater Good" - by goodnews - May 3, 2013 at 6:56 am

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