(May 1, 2013 at 3:25 am)goodnews Wrote: Romans 2:4 is quiet clear it is the goodness of God that leads men to repentance / John 6:44 tells us that no man has faith in Jesus unless The Father draw him first / Ephesians 2:8-10 is very clear that ones faith in Christ is by the grace of God and not of ourselfs and affirms Ephesians 1:11 that God is in complete controll, as He has predestinated/foreordained all His workmanship . "christiandom" chooses to believe their own "free will" has made them repent and believe in Christ, but this assetion is not scriptual but blasphemous ???
So you believe God created many people to be in hell, are you one of those who has no choice and will be in hell forever and ever.
If this is true then Christ is not necessary for salvation, those of use who will be in heaven do not have to do anything but sit around and wait for death and then the everlasting life in Paradise. Why would Christ ask us to go make disciples and to spread the good news if no one has a choice about their finial destination. Why any of this if God doesn't give anyone a choice, why create, why the fall, why the nation of Israel, why the miracles, why His word, why His promises and why anything. Your view is of a fatalist, so why live.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
