RE: Atheism, what led you?
May 6, 2013 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2013 at 5:20 pm by pocaracas.)
(May 6, 2013 at 4:08 pm)TosinAsLeader Wrote:A silly thing, at first, but it was enough.(May 2, 2013 at 10:34 am)pocaracas Wrote: How many times must we answer the same question?
It feels like every month there's a new guy asking this same thing!
OT: Born that way, despite what people around me said, I never bought into the story.... eventually, became convinced they were all wrong, then I found there was a name for someone like me, so I didn't feel so alone in my clarity of mind.
I apologize, I should have read the first 3 pages or so. What made you convinced?
I heard a news on the radio, when I was 10. It was about having footage of some event in a remote village in China... And I remember thinking something like "man, they have cameras everywhere, nowadays" (this was over 20 years ago, so you can imagine how this sort of reasoning can be even more applied today.
Anyway, cameras everywhere... and then "puf".... you know what else is supposed to be everywhere? this god thing they people about. How come no camera has yet captured it? something's not right...
I thought I was the only person in the world on to this thing of "god not being there", so I kept quiet...
Then I learned about evolution and that contradicted genesis.
I learned there was a name for people like me, atheists.... and that we're about 20% of the world's population.... that's was a bit of a relief...
Then I learned about other religions and couldn't come up with a way to make sense of that fact, unless they were all man-made... and here I am, still under that distinct impression that all religions are man-made, even if the people making them up are truly convinced of what they claim... but that don't make it so, does it?
Then I learned a bit about psychology and how the brain can work to make you think something is true, when it isn't...
All religious experiences got automatically relegated to psychological experiences, self-delusion, etc...
And no one has managed to show me that it's not all in their minds. That this god thing is out there, like they claim in their holy books.
I await for this god thing to present itself to me like they claim it presents itself to people in their holy books... I await, like I hear a lot of other people awaiting.... and never getting anything. Makes it seem like they just made it up, huh?
You reply was missing on the page, there, so here's a quote of it!
(May 6, 2013 at 4:37 pm)TosinAsLeader Wrote:(May 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm)Joel Wrote: Which video? There are quite a few.
Yes and reading it literally would be rejecting its' actual meaning. If it isn't to much, can you provide a example?
It seems to be understood by science that the universe has always been. At least that is the widely accepted theory until science can verify that it is more than a theory or that there is something else behind the existence of the universe.
If you cannot understand that the universe has always been with no creator behind its existence, imagine how an atheist feels in relation to God having always existed with there being nothing behind the creation of His existence.
Just because science does not have the perfect answer does not mean that the only available solution is a deity.
What science shows that the universe has never been without a creator? I'm asking out of more understanding.
(May 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm)Joel Wrote: Nobody created them. They formed over millions-billions of years after the big bang.
Watch Lawrence Krauss' something from nothing lecture.
Have you read the bible?
There are quite a few videos on youtube. WHich one?
Yes I have. Can you provide a example.