RE: If Not Hell then what?
May 6, 2013 at 9:24 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2013 at 11:02 pm by Cinjin.)
(May 6, 2013 at 12:02 am)Drich Wrote:(May 5, 2013 at 7:34 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: Heaven?
What if God does not want to spend an eternity with those who raped and murdered His Children? Or those who spent their whole lives hating Him or those who follow him? Does He not have the right to separate those who love him from those who do not?
Out of this whole thread, this is the only interesting post you've made, and despite my better judgement, I will address a few points.
Quote:What if God does not want to spend an eternity with those who raped and murdered His Children?Well, that is a conundrum, considering that your god ordered the Israelite army to do the EXACT same thing over and over again. What happened to all the souls of the people that HIS army murdered and raped?? Do the Philistine women, who's only crime was being born into a tribe that taught them to worship a different god, do they get to spend an eternity with god? They were raped, their children and husbands murdered, their lands and possessions stolen, their daughters made to be enslaved brides .... How is their pitiful crime of non-belief any worse than the savage dictate of your god?
When your god ordered the babies cut from the bellies of the women of Amelek and Samaria did both mother and child get a pass into heaven or is that only reserved for the people who do the cutting?
Your answer is given in the question: Your god has literally SURROUNDED himself with murderers and rapists since his debut with the Hebrew. If anything, opening the doors of Heaven to all the atheists would provide a lot more non-killing, non-bigoted, forgiving type of souls in Heaven. Sure, you'd get the occasional horrible atheist, but on average, allowing non-believers in would actually CLEAN UP the joint.
Quote:Or those who spent their whole lives hating Him or those who follow him?Most atheists feel that you can't hate something you don't believe in. Often christards try to label our hatred of your bigotry and your dirty religion as hatred of your god in order to make some non-point about the nonsense you believe, but it's just greasy sophistry.
Quote:Does He not have the right to separate those who love him from those who do not?Absolutely ... or rather he would have, if he had bothered to reveal himself to the ENTIRE world. If it was so important to him to surround himself with people who fear and worship him, than he should've made it far FAR more clearer who he is and what he was planning. You know, PROVE his existence (and power) over the thousands of other gods -- many that have nearly identical attributes.
I know I know ... who am I to tell your god what to do ... blah blah, he doesn't have to act according to my simple human mind. We've heard this many times from you, and yet when we answer your stupid questions about non-existent places, this is inevitably your response.
The point is Drich, you will never EVER have a leg to stand on as long as you continue to use the Bible as your sole backing argument.
Fairytales are just silly, and those who tout them as fact are ... well, I'm sorry ... but they're just stupid.