Esquilax
Somehow, I don't think you speak for all atheists. Theism is a belief, an opinion to the questions Why are we here? How did the universe come into existence? Why is there something rather than nothing? Whether the case I made for theism persuades atheists or not, I have shouldered the burden of evidence by providing 5 lines of facts (evidence) that support theism. My case and reasonings don't have to persuade atheists in order to be valid.
The majority of lets say vocal atheists don't share your tepid and vacuous definition of atheism. They do in fact deny the existence of a Creator and are confident that our existence and that of the universe is the result of mindless forces that didn't intend our existence. They promote that thinking in the market place of ideas and many atheists openly mock and ridcule belief in God as being on par with belief in Fairies and Santa Clause and invisible pink elephants. Do you merely lack acceptance of belief in the aforementioned?
Love,
That is her modus operandi. I find Apophenia to be a phoney and full of herself and probably best ignored.
Faith No More
It does matter when someone makes a blanket statement that all theistic arguments have failed.
If in fact what atheists believe is true is true, then some other non-God explanation for our existence and that of the universe would have to be true. You reject the explanation an intelligent creator caused and designed the universe for the purpose of human life. Do you equally reject the explanation that mindless forces without plan or intent caused the universe to exist and that human life is the accidental by product of the laws of physics? In short...are you an A-naturalist? That would mean you lack belief that our existence is the result of mindless forces as well as the result of a Creator.
Quote:The atheist position, such as it is, is one of disbelief regarding religious claims, and an acceptance that, as of this time, we do not know how the universe began. The sole reason for this is that theists haven't properly shouldered their burden of proof; there is no implicit denial of a conscious creator in that. Only a lack of acceptance.
Somehow, I don't think you speak for all atheists. Theism is a belief, an opinion to the questions Why are we here? How did the universe come into existence? Why is there something rather than nothing? Whether the case I made for theism persuades atheists or not, I have shouldered the burden of evidence by providing 5 lines of facts (evidence) that support theism. My case and reasonings don't have to persuade atheists in order to be valid.
The majority of lets say vocal atheists don't share your tepid and vacuous definition of atheism. They do in fact deny the existence of a Creator and are confident that our existence and that of the universe is the result of mindless forces that didn't intend our existence. They promote that thinking in the market place of ideas and many atheists openly mock and ridcule belief in God as being on par with belief in Fairies and Santa Clause and invisible pink elephants. Do you merely lack acceptance of belief in the aforementioned?
Love,
Quote:Apophenia, I demand a response from you because every single time that I dispute your unfounded assertions, and ask for clarification, you fail to respond with a counter argument that substantiates your position.
That is her modus operandi. I find Apophenia to be a phoney and full of herself and probably best ignored.
Faith No More
Quote:You do realize that there have been countless numbers of theists that became atheists based on the lack of convincing arguments, don't you? Not that any of that matters, however, because none of that has any bearing on the truth.
It does matter when someone makes a blanket statement that all theistic arguments have failed.
Quote:And what we're trying to explain to you is that your question demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of what exactly atheism entails. You seem to think that it is some sort of counter-proposal to the god hypothesis, which it is not. So, I don't know how mindless forces would bring about life. What I do know, however, is that these mindless forces do exist, and when you combine that with the lack of convincing arguments for god, it seems much more probable that these mindless forces are responsible for life.
If in fact what atheists believe is true is true, then some other non-God explanation for our existence and that of the universe would have to be true. You reject the explanation an intelligent creator caused and designed the universe for the purpose of human life. Do you equally reject the explanation that mindless forces without plan or intent caused the universe to exist and that human life is the accidental by product of the laws of physics? In short...are you an A-naturalist? That would mean you lack belief that our existence is the result of mindless forces as well as the result of a Creator.