(May 11, 2013 at 6:01 am)Tiberius Wrote:(May 8, 2013 at 4:53 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: If you compare Israeli policy with apartheid South Africa, then I say yes. But I acknowledge that reasonable people can disagree with that assessment.Do you even know what the word "anti-Semite" means?
The term refers to native speakers of semitic languages of which Arabic, ancient Aramaic and the greek pidgin hebrew are members. As modern hebrew is an artificially imposed language adopted for political reasons, that is no Jews spoke it as a native language prior to zionism, Israeli Jews are not legitimately native speakers of a semitic language and are thus not semites.
In the late 19th c. a newspaper reporter named Marr or some such coined antisemitism and it stuck. Originally he used it to refer to the people east of the Dardenelles, generally the Arab world as Jews in his time did not speak any semitic language unless they were from the Arab world and spoke Arabic. Unfortunately it morphed in the popular mind into something other than the original meaning and contributed to the idea that Jews were other than members of a religion and fueled both Zionist and Nazi tyranny.
The Zionist revival and creation of modern, i.e. non-biblical hebrew, was touted by the Zionists as what Jews had always spoken in private (bullshit!) which lead to the Jews of eastern Europe who mostly spoke the yiddish dialect of German to be considered a "semitic" people.
Modern Hebrew differs from biblical Hebrew in that the latter has only about 1/3 the words needed for a working language. This is before adding words for electricity and steam engine. To fill in these missing words the Zionists drew mostly upon Arabic but modified the pronunciations to be more in line with Yiddish.
With the world support of Zionist tyranny the term has lost most all of its original meaning and come to be used to refer to Jews only. It has gone so far that those who discuss the origin and development of the word and who challenge the Zionist political usage of the word are declared to be antisemitic. The word has come full circle.
Quote:I'm fine with Israel existing btw, but disagreeing with their policies doesn't make me an anti-Semite. Disagreeing with them and using them to make racist comments about Jews would. I'm not sure Hawking has done that (Bobby Fischer certainly has).
Israel is only its policies. The issue is not the existence of the country but the rights of the private property owners to the return of their property even when it leaves the murdering thieves who hold it presently with only a one way ticket back to Europe where they or their ancestors came from.
Jews are not now nor have they ever been a race. Using the term racism in this context is terminally ignorant and stupid.