(May 11, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: Were does scripture say God left them alone in the Garden, I find that very difficult to believe, don't you?
Esquilax Wrote:Okay, see, now you're stuck, because your options are to either tell me that you believe god watched the serpent mislead his creations without doing anything, or that he was absent when it occurred.
I'm not stuck, I'm the one who brought up the omnipresence of God.
Esquilax Wrote:As for a scriptural reference, Genesis 3:8. They hear god approaching, indicating that he wasn't present. Now, you can resort to the whole "god is everywhere" thing, but then you're back to telling me god allowed Satan the run of his favored creations.
You are correct, Satan was allowed, he has no power over God. God was watching, He is everywhere, He knows what's happening at all times.
GC Wrote:What tree, I did not know the serpent was in a tree. You'll have to explain that one to me, please.
Esquilax Wrote:The tree of knowledge of good and evil: why did it exist in the first place? What reason did god have to create a tree that he would forbid anyone to eat the fruit thereof? What is the purpose of this tree, other than to act as a reason to boot Adam and Eve from the garden?
You must be real dense, how many times have this been explained, ok let's try one more time. The tree was there so Adam and Eve could show their love for God through obedience, the same thing parents desire from their children. Tell me what would make your parents happy, your money or (not and/or) your respect for them.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.


